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Posted October 09, 2017
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john_hatcher: I should not have clicked on your link. I didn't know that there are so many problems with games. I only own Postal 2, but reading the problems there makes me the opposite of happy.
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PaterAlf: Yes, it's annoying and frustrating, but according to the list (I have no idea, if it is up-to-date), it only affects 3.47% of GOG's catalogue (74 out of 2128 games and DLCs). Still far from perfect, but from all the threads on the forum that complain about missing patches, upgrade options and DLCs, I would have thought that the problem is much bigger.
Yes, 3,5% is far from "nearly all", but even if it is just 0,1%, what does that number say, if games that I own are affected?
Post edited October 09, 2017 by john_hatcher
Posted October 09, 2017
Question for those who went:

Was anything said about the future of movies on GOG? Obviously it didn't really work out for them, but it seems strange that they're still for sale despite not having a new one in ages (aside from the Witcher 3 concert which seems better as a goodie for game owners than its own purchase). I'm assuming they're contractually obligated to sell the ones they have for a period of time perhaps? Or is the concept just on the back burner for some time in the future?
Posted October 09, 2017
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JMich: ... 3) Market share: GOG is currently at a decent position (we did get numbers but we can't disclose them). ...
That is unfair! Well, at least six persons more know now. Don't tell me the numbers. Just tell me if you by chance bought some CDP shares during the last days. ;)
Post edited October 09, 2017 by Trilarion
Posted October 09, 2017
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john_hatcher: Yes, 3,5% is far from "nearly all", but even if it is just 0,1%, what does that number say, if games that I own are affected?
Do bare in mind that all stores have games with problems. Steam also has a tons of games with problems from being totally broken and/or abandoned to asset flips and games "made" simply to make profit from steam cards. Steam doesn't even pretend to care.
Post edited October 09, 2017 by Petrell
Posted October 09, 2017
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john_hatcher: As for these two examples, I'm out of here until they show that this visit was more than an PR stunt. It is up to GOG to show they really are better than other companies. Go for it. I'm anxiously waiting.
We all are. We all hope that this was just the beginning.
Posted October 09, 2017
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MrFortyFive: Was anything said about the future of movies on GOG?
I don't think anybody asked them, or I missed it. But based on what they said some time ago in a Reddit Q&A it seem to be quite dead until further notice.
Posted October 09, 2017
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Gersen: I don't think anybody asked them, or I missed it. But based on what they said some time ago in a Reddit Q&A it seem to be quite dead until further notice.
I asked them and yes, the answer was more or less the same than in the Q&A on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gog/comments/67uksk/gog_bizdev_qa_answers/
Posted October 09, 2017
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fronzelneekburm: Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a law against refusing to provide updates to certain retailers. Or is there? Wouldn't it constitute an unfair business practice to provide one outlet with a proper product, while the other outlet is habitually supplied with sub-standard products? Obviously, I'm no legal expert, but this situation has me wondering what options there are.
Unfortunately (there is this word again ;)) in general you just buy the product as it is. Afaik you cannot even demand any updates at all on any store. If the game is not working you can try to get a refund but that is about it. So since these updates are not part of the contract you signed I highly doubt that it would be possible for you as a customer to sue publishers/devs for not updating one platform while updating the other. But I can try if I find some legal judgements here.

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fronzelneekburm: I'm curious: Would you say that, going forward, gog has any idea on how they should go about to acquire the above-mentioned street cred with devs? Your use of the word "unfortunately" seems to (unwittingly) imply that they don't. ;)
First. My "Unfortunately" was followed by a "I think" so I am stating my own opinion here that is based on a way such things logically would work. How to gain this street cred? By getting more and more devs to sign on GOG. Making GOG known to as many customers as possible. Advertise, making clear that GOG is different. Increase GOGs market share by getting more devs and more customers. That would be the way imo. And here comes the problem: how to do that when you also would have to admit that GOG sometimes does not always get the most updated versions or that customers on GOG sometimes have to wait longer for a game to even be released there? That is the whole problem and tbh. I don't see any solution to it. I for one just try to keep faith and support GOG and yes, I still do recommend them because I like the fact that I have the feeling to deal with real people and not JUST a business (even though I am still aware that it is a business after all). If you have additional ideas how to help them achieve this street cred goal of which I think is important, please go ahead.

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fronzelneekburm: It seems to me that they bent over backwards to accomodate their business partners, often at the expense of their customers. So what else is there to do to get devs to respect their authoritah? They'll always play second fiddle to Steam, so that can't be the eternal excuse for devs' laziness and complacency.
Agreed. GOG will never be on the same playfield as Steam but they are also quite different from Steam. Not just because of the missing DRM but because of their way to deal with their customers and the (optional) offline installers. These are the strengths of GOG that need to be told and shown. GOG was better at talking to the community once - hopefully they will be again. Like it was said, I consider this "event" to be the first (of hopefully many) steps. I don't think that I have ever seen anybody from Steam talk at all to their customers. Here on GOG are people, gamers like us - Steam is just ... a business without any personality. For me this is a big plus for GOG (and btw: we told them that this is one thing we like(d) on GOG).
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Getcomposted: Just how devious and machiavellian are GOG?!
One of my first feelings was envy, because the Magnificent Six got to have a close-up look at the inner workings of GOG. They might even have effected change!
So, if GOG had one meeting, they might need more feedback in the future, and thus could do another meet.

If one of the criteria for choosing forumites was their deep involvement with the forums i.e. a passion for rational (and rationed! ;) ) discussion and debate, whilst also being helpful...

Wouldn't that make other forumites want to behave in this manner in the hopes of possibly being chosen if there is a next time?

And if enough forumites behaved accordingly, the forums might start to clear up some of the negativity currently surrounding it.

Which is what the majority of people want.

So, my last question is: Just how badly do you want swag? :D
They clearly undersetimated that you would find out about their master plan. Well done, Sherlock :D

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Getcomposted: On a more serious note, my thanks to the Magnificent Six for deciding to tell the rest of us what occurred. I'm over 90 minutes late for breakfast because I just read through the entire thread. On. My. Tablet. (The sacrifices I make for edification. ;) Also, worth it.)
It gives me hope that a clean up in Aisle GOG forums may yet happen.
In another thread someone called us "the 6 dudes" and I think that'S much more appropriate :)

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Getcomposted: P.S. I'm also fond of the bare-bones forum style. Maybe make Barefoot and Adalia(?) Essentials canon, though?
I highly recommended those two skripts in my feedback survey as an example as to how a better GOG could look like. Don't know if it helps but yes, I cannot imagine using GOG without them (and I was so close to meet at least one of them ... damn those passports).
Post edited October 09, 2017 by MarkoH01
Posted October 09, 2017
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MarkoH01: (and I was so close to meet at least one of them ... damn those passports).
Adalia had a passport, but also had previous engagements. Unless you know something I don't.
Posted October 09, 2017
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john_hatcher: I should not have clicked on your link. I didn't know that there are so many problems with games. I only own Postal 2, but reading the problems there makes me the opposite of happy.
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PaterAlf: Yes, it's annoying and frustrating, but according to the list (I have no idea, if it is up-to-date), it only affects 3.47% of GOG's catalogue (74 out of 2128 games and DLCs). Still far from perfect, but from all the threads on the forum that complain about missing patches, upgrade options and DLCs, I would have thought that the problem is much bigger.
And now I am envious. I am so bad at math and probably wouldn't be able to figure this one out ;)
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MarkoH01: (and I was so close to meet at least one of them ... damn those passports).
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JMich: Adalia had a passport, but also had previous engagements. Unless you know something I don't.
So he was the one for whom not the passport was the problem ... so damn whateveritwas ;)
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PaterAlf: On the other hand they probably get a broader media coverage (and though reach more people), if it isn't a regular thing and they just use it from time to time.
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PainOfSalvation: I doubt it. Like i said, if they would do it more often, they would get more people sticking around (media would write about it anyway). There are always people who are new to hear about GOG. They can always experiment and use the data to check what's working best for them.
Maybe - but don't forget: It's up to the devs/publishers if they want to give away there games for free. I really don't see how GOG could influence these much.
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JMich: ... 3) Market share: GOG is currently at a decent position (we did get numbers but we can't disclose them). ...
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Trilarion: That is unfair! Well, at least six persons more know now. Don't tell me the numbers. Just tell me if you by chance bought some CDP shares during the last days. ;)
Tbh I already forgot all the numbers - so we are equal again ;) And no, I haven't bought any CDP shares ... yet. Don't know about the others though and I don't know if somebody used my card that got lost in the ATM to buy one....
Post edited October 09, 2017 by MarkoH01
Posted October 09, 2017
Cool to hear that there are such events. Maybe one day I'll be invited,too. I really wanna try that drm-free pizza :P
Post edited October 09, 2017 by Pawel1995
Posted October 09, 2017
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Pawel1995: Cool to hear that there are such events. Maybe one day I'll be invited,too. I really wanna try that drm-free pizza :P
Aaaahh come on. Just look at where you are coming from. They probably live next door to you - just knock at the door and ask for a slice of pizza.

(Yes, I know I just underestimated the size of Poland on purpose ;))
Post edited October 09, 2017 by MarkoH01
Posted October 09, 2017
Thanks a lot for sharing this JMich!
Posted October 09, 2017
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MarkoH01: (and I was so close to meet at least one of them ... damn those passports).
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JMich: Adalia had a passport, but also had previous engagements. Unless you know something I don't.
Yeah passport wasn't an issue for me, I'm actually surprised how few people seem to have one... Though that being said my partner's is out of date...
I was just too busy to be able to make it.

Got to make a living some how unfortunately.
Posted October 09, 2017
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adaliabooks: Yeah passport wasn't an issue for me, I'm actually surprised how few people seem to have one...
I'd guess most people only get one when they actually need it. I remember only got one two or three years ago when I needed to go outside of europe where my normal identity card was not enough :D
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