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General discussionUpdate: BioShock™ & Bioshock 2™ Classic versions now available; Release: BioShock™ & Bioshock 2™ Remastered(423 posts)(423 posts)
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Posted February 26, 2019
No Gods or Kings or DRM.

Update: Classic versions of Bioshock and Bioshock 2 are now available. If you already own Bioshock Remastered or Bioshock 2 Remastered, you can download classic versions directly from your GOG library.

BioShock™ and BioShock 2™ Remastered are finally available DRM-free.

The legendary shooters emerge from somewhere beyond the sea, dripping with that deliciously claustrophobic atmosphere of decay, corruption, and human ambition gone wrong.
Widely considered as the gold standard for story-driven shooters with light RPG elements, they have been remastered to feature higher resolution textures and models, director's commentary, and several other additions that ensure time will never wash them away.
Pump yourself full of plasmids, pump your enemies full of bullets, and dive right back into Rapture's beautifully rotten halls.
Posted December 18, 2018
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SarahGabriella: Bioshock is about story and combat. I think calling it a walking sim is a disservice to the great story it has. Without combat interruptions we couldnt enjoy the story fully.
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toxicTom: MBiL_248 above mentioned he could imagine Bioshock as a walking sim - and why not? A good non-combat exploration game set in decaying Rapture could be very atmospheric. Could even be a game like "What Remains of Edith Finch" chronicling the demise of various citizens of the underwater city.
Oh that i would totally support! A sort of piecing together what happened to some people down there. I love backstory on characters no matter how important they are. Always reading every note or audio diary.
Posted December 18, 2018
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SarahGabriella: English is better anyways!
Bullshit.

/edit: Ah, new page. Pointless if both posts aren't in a row. Anyway, definitely want those original languages of Aquanox, Aquanox 2, SpellForce etc in the store some day.
Post edited December 18, 2018 by Lucumo
Posted December 18, 2018
Question to gog about the original versions. When they get released, will they be separate exe games?
Posted December 18, 2018
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Tarhiel: How did you knew they were coming? :)
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Themken: There were leaks :-) A lot of those leaks are posted on the Unofficial list of games coming here.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/games_that_are_unofficially_confirmed_for_release_in_the_future_part_2
:D GOGileakes?
I had no idea :O
Posted December 18, 2018
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MBiL_248: Ah, that's why everything (okay: something) takes so long here: The employees are busy with really delicate investigations... :D

If you're tired from staring to blue / green / grey corridors, I have some ideas for a couple of eagerly awaited updates... :-)

Btw. I'm fine with all people who prefer System Shock over BioShock. I just wanted to clarify that it is a personal opinion, not a given fact.
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Tarhiel: Not true. What Crossmando and I have in mind is not the graphical fidelity of those games - which is what you based your argument at - but level design (Bioshock borrowed it from SS), story complexity (I am surprised almost nobody mentions that Bioshock 1 is pure ripoff of SS2 story, cleaved to a bare bones, including the pivotal plot twist) and the whole philosophy of design (SS2 is immersive sim, Bioshock simplified this school of design and made it an intelligent shooter - much less broad, but still fun and effective in its execution).

By the way did you knowt they formerly made much more complex game, but their pilot testing group was puzzled by it (I don´t know what dumb asses they got there, since they couldn´t understand the freedom of approach), so they simplified the whole gameplay - and that´s what we have today?

They actually planned to do System Shock 3 in all but name - couldn´t get the rights from the IP hell they were back then, only NightDive succeeded some years later.
I think Prey is a lot more similar to the System Shock 2 than Bioshock which is as you said the inteligent shooter and his success were amazing setting and plot. The plot which is not a ripoff and if you think otherwise, than System Shock was also ripoff just because the same cliche appears in other game or book.:)
Posted December 18, 2018
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MarkoH01: Could you please explain? I finished both originals and never have had any issues (except from missing sound - easy fix - and gettimng part 2 to run because of Gfwl).
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darthspudius: mentioned it earlier, the original copies have physics capped at 30 fps. The game technically runs fine but rolling objects etc look like they're stuttering. Big issue that was never officially patched. There's a mod out to fix it, you can find a great demonstration on Youtube as an example. I remember the sound issue. I had to stick a microphone in before it'd work. Why? I have no idea. lol
Thank you. I never noticed it (I had too much to do with staying alive in the games I guess ;)).
Posted December 18, 2018
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AB2012: Reminds me of some early complaints of "I haven't played them but Icewind Dale & Neverwinter Nights must be bad purely because they aren't Baldur's Gate 3". Well, no they aren't, hence the new franchise which itself means they don't have (or pretend to) be an official sequel. "Spiritual Successor" means it's heavily influenced on the same style of play, not a sequel, eg, Serious Sam FE & SE have been called the "spiritual successor" to Doom 1-2, (more than Doom 3 was).
Don't know about IWD, but NWN1's initial criticism was somewhat justified, as the main game's campaign is "meh" compared to BG's campaign and it was buggy (Bioware also left many bugs untouched).
Nowadays however, I'd say that due to the sheer amount of good campaigns that have been developed for NWN1 (both Bioware-amde and player-made ones) , it's better than BG.
Posted December 18, 2018
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Panaias: Your "rant" syntax is invalid. You start with a [rant-on] but end with a [/rant-off] which implies there should be a starting [rant-off]. If you want your rant to be heard you will have to omit the "-on" and "-off" parts, and simply express your rant as
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You can also replace '[' and ']' with '<' and '>' respectively and, there, you have perfectly valid XML.
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sucht: thank you for pointing out my errors, and have a nice day :)
Also, you misspelled both Bioshock Infinite as well as Skyrim.

Sorry, I really couldn't resist. ;)
Posted December 18, 2018
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Digital_CHE: And You have some extra playable content in Bioshock Remastered that is not available in the original version..
You are sure about that? Afaik the remastered have just better textures, better scaled UI and they add all DLCs but no additional gameplay to the originals and their DLCs.

Question to GOG: WHEN the classics will be added (again I would by for them) will they be multi language as well? GOG is kind of selling those as bonus but especially in this case they are the reason I would buy them in the first place so uncut German would be important to me. I already own BS1 +2 both retail and on Steam - give me a reason (o.k. another reason than DRM-free in case of BS2 since BS1 is DRM-free already) to buy again.
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SarahGabriella: English is better anyways!
Depends on the localisation imo (and of course on your native tongue).
Post edited December 18, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted December 18, 2018
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Digital_CHE: And You have some extra playable content in Bioshock Remastered that is not available in the original version..
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MarkoH01: You are sure about that? Afaik the remastered have just better textures, better scaled UI and they add all DLCs but no additional gameplay to the originals and their DLCs.
Bioshock Remastered has The Challenge Rooms. That DLC was available 10 years ago for the PS3 version of Bioshock , but not on the PC version.
Posted December 18, 2018
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MarkoH01: You are sure about that? Afaik the remastered have just better textures, better scaled UI and they add all DLCs but no additional gameplay to the originals and their DLCs.
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Digital_CHE: Bioshock Remastered has The Challenge Rooms. That DLC was available 10 years ago for the PS3 version of Bioshock , but not on the PC version.
Wow. I did not know those even existed. Thank you.
Posted December 18, 2018
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Digital_CHE: Bioshock Remastered has The Challenge Rooms. That DLC was available 10 years ago for the PS3 version of Bioshock , but not on the PC version.
The concept museum as well. Basically, the original PC port of BioShock got little to no love when it came to additional officially released content.
Posted December 18, 2018
So, did they fix the random crashes or the Vsync off problem(moving black bars) in the remastered versions numerous people complain about in the reviews on Steam?
Post edited December 18, 2018 by Arundir
Posted December 18, 2018
I just found the bug report I postred to 2K when I was playing Bioshock remastered (German setting) on Steam:

"I rebound diary to "T" (it was "D" by default afaik but the message now reads "Hold "G" for diary. Also it says me to press "P" to save my game even though "P" is for pause menu and not for quick save. Still it is annoying that gamepad is set to "on" by default no mater if one is connected or not. Last but not least: while being unarmed (first big daddy/little sister encounter) the mouse sensitivity is super high until you hold weapon or plasmid again. Simple bugs that should have been seen after just 10 or 20 minutes of gameplay. I have to say that I am a bit disappointed about the QA here."

Did they fix any of this?
Post edited December 18, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted December 18, 2018
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pkk234: Congrats to all the people who've been waiting for this.
Skyrim must be next, for that one guy.
Plz no Skyrim. Most overrated BS game ever!
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