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The Witcher 2Anyone else really hate racists? (spoilers)(25 posts)(25 posts)
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Posted June 01, 2011
I´m trying to do a second playthrough of the game to see the outcomes of different decisions. Roche is cool and all, but I sided with the elves in Witcher 1 and did the same in Witcher 2, because I absolutely hate racists and absolutely love stabbing them.

Its surprising really. I´m finding it nearly impossible to tag along with Roche because of all the racists everywhere. In my first playthrough Iorveth was my bro. I made every decision I could that would take me questing with him because I knew it would get me decapitating racists. I´m considering loading back to Flotsam and just going with Iorveth again.
Posted June 01, 2011
Almost everyone are racists in witchers world. So its no difference really.
Posted June 01, 2011
Isn't there nearly as much hate for humans in the elf side as there is hate for elves on the human side in Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 (to a marginally lesser extent though because Iorveth changes a little)?
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Posted June 01, 2011
If you don't think Iorveth is racist i would really like to know your definition of the word. Iorveth is one of the most racist characters in the game.
Posted June 01, 2011
I found that Yeavan in the Witcher 1 was an arrogant prat. His hatred of humans actually blinded him to reason and made him completely indifferent to any possibility of his acknowledging his role in escalating the violence. In short he got on my nerves from my first dialogue with him. The elves in the Witcher world are very very full of themselves. They have a valid cause for being angry at humans but they are every bit as racist as them. So to be fair the best path for a person who hates racists is the true neutral path. you get to kill the racists on both sides.

I sided with Roche in the Witcher 2 for my first playthrough but intend to go with Iorveth on the second. He's bubbling with a fair bit of hate but so is Roche. Both have good reasons for their hate as both have suffered at the hands of the other side. neither are evil. Roche is a bit too much of a hothead for my liking but he is very much a true friend throughout the game if you stick with him.

The coolest elf I saw in both games was Cedric. I was sad to see him die. He was a good man. He got it, he was not trying to stop the sun or turn back time, he was trying to make his own way outside the violence and hatred of the stupid conflict. He was not trying to feed the flames just trying not to get burned by them. He did not deserve his fate. More than any of those who died I felt bad for him.
Posted June 01, 2011
I could never side with the scoiatel, because of their bigotry against humans. Also, that and they try to make disorder. If you side with the order (atleast in TW1), you think your fighting for order (turns out your helping jaque make some monsters etc etc)
Posted June 01, 2011
Roche isn't ignorant racist . he doesn't not fight peaceful non-humans.He fights Scoiatel that are murdering human civilians.Overall Scoiatel is bigger evil , they terrorize both humans and peaceful non-humans.
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Posted June 01, 2011
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jklinders: I found that Yeavan in the Witcher 1 was an arrogant prat. His hatred of humans actually blinded him to reason and made him completely indifferent to any possibility of his acknowledging his role in escalating the violence. In short he got on my nerves from my first dialogue with him. The elves in the Witcher world are very very full of themselves. They have a valid cause for being angry at humans but they are every bit as racist as them. So to be fair the best path for a person who hates racists is the true neutral path. you get to kill the racists on both sides.

I sided with Roche in the Witcher 2 for my first playthrough but intend to go with Iorveth on the second. He's bubbling with a fair bit of hate but so is Roche. Both have good reasons for their hate as both have suffered at the hands of the other side. neither are evil. Roche is a bit too much of a hothead for my liking but he is very much a true friend throughout the game if you stick with him.

The coolest elf I saw in both games was Cedric. I was sad to see him die. He was a good man. He got it, he was not trying to stop the sun or turn back time, he was trying to make his own way outside the violence and hatred of the stupid conflict. He was not trying to feed the flames just trying not to get burned by them. He did not deserve his fate. More than any of those who died I felt bad for him.
Cedric is awsome, wish we got more dialouge with him
Posted June 01, 2011
Both sides have an overwhelming amount of racial prejudice, being blinded by that hate, ignorance, and all that. But what's great is that it makes sense given their circumstances instead of simply being a social commentary. They've all got blood on their hands even when they knew they was another way out, and have to face the consequences. I went with Roche because of my thought that he'd get me closer to the Kingslayer, and I made as many pro-nonhuman choices as I could along the way.
Posted June 01, 2011
And dwarves think that human women get pregnant just by spreading their legs.

There is no righteous side in these games. Same with real life, dude.

And, as somebody noted, Roche is probably the one of the least "racist" characters. But he is still a fanatical nationalist, so there is that.
Posted June 01, 2011
Well at least in this Witcher world there are races. *chuckle*
Posted June 01, 2011
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kaziglu: Well at least in this Witcher world there are races. *chuckle*
Zing!
Posted June 01, 2011
From a Chapter 1 P.O.V you people may be right about Iorveth being more racist. However *drumroll* see for yourselves what happens in chapter 2.
Posted June 01, 2011
Can I just say that I love love love this thread's title? It's like asking, "Hey, does anyone else hate the idea of falling off a cliff onto a bed of spikes?"

And everyone has prejudices in this game, but I don't think that it's outright racism seeing as how both sides have more behind their hate than just being different. It manifests in a way that looks like racism, but without that history I doubt they'd be at each others' throats.
Posted June 01, 2011
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227: Can I just say that I love love love this thread's title? It's like asking, "Hey, does anyone else hate the idea of falling off a cliff onto a bed of spikes?"

And everyone has prejudices in this game, but I don't think that it's outright racism seeing as how both sides have more behind their hate than just being different. It manifests in a way that looks like racism, but without that history I doubt they'd be at each others' throats.
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LOL I was thinking the same thing, can actually imagine anyone answering no? lol.
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