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Who's hoping the filthy Nilfgardians have brainwashed our beloved amnesiac lover into their faithful lapdog?

Hopefully she serves as an antagonist for most of the Witcher 3. It'll just make saving her that much more heartwarming.
Post edited May 21, 2011 by revial
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witcher 3 talk. ughh...

is this the call of duty or bioware phenomenon we're seeing?
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soldiergeralt: witcher 3 talk. ughh...

is this the call of duty or bioware phenomenon we're seeing?
No, it seems like genuine enthusiasm for TW2. No need to be rude.

I would very much prefer it if CDProjekt Red took a few more years to develop TW3 (we want it good, not rushed), but to answer the OP, I wouldn't mind an antagonistic Yennefer. She's touchy enough as it is, and a little push in the right/wrong direction could get very interesting. I'm not sure that Triss would survive it, though.
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soldiergeralt: witcher 3 talk. ughh...

is this the call of duty or bioware phenomenon we're seeing?
Good games can't have sequels? Just because some franchises make horrible sequels doesn't mean CDPR will do the same.

EDIT: Oh god, I didn't think about what might happen to Triss if Yennefer was on the other side. I certainly don't want anything to happen to Triss...
Post edited May 21, 2011 by Fayth
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soldiergeralt: witcher 3 talk. ughh...

is this the call of duty or bioware phenomenon we're seeing?
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Fayth: Good games can't have sequels? Just because some franchises make horrible sequels doesn't mean CDPR will do the same.

EDIT: Oh god, I didn't think about what might happen to Triss if Yennefer was on the other side. I certainly don't want anything to happen to Triss...
Well, we've been getting multiple endings in TW1 and 2, and I'm sure that Triss has mega-fans at CDPR, so she's probably got at least some kind of chance. And it's not like "death" stopped Geralt and Yennefer...

Obviously, this is just fan speculation, folks. Not trying to spoil or annoy anyone. Peace.
Post edited May 21, 2011 by kyogen
It'd totally fit the Geralt and Yen thing too, with their whole on (madly in love) and off (secretly madly in love while being passive aggressively mean to each other) again relationship over the years.

Hasn't Yen always been a bit.....steely-eyed towards Triss and her affections for Geralt? :p Could be fun to see how this plays out in W3. It certainly wouldn't be out of character for her to do something to Triss, seeing as Yen is quite a bit stronger than her.
Post edited May 21, 2011 by revial
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revial: It'd totally fit the Geralt and Yen thing too, with their whole on (madly in love) and off (secretly madly in love while being passive aggressively mean to each other) again relationship over the years.

Hasn't Yen always been a bit.....steely-eyed towards Triss and her affections for Geralt? :p Could be fun to see how this plays out in W3. It certainly wouldn't be out of character for her to do something to Triss, seeing as Yen is quite a bit stronger than her.
I'd enjoy it, and here's why:

Yennefer and Triss were friends, very close friends for sorceresses, long before Geralt came into the picture. When he did, he tied himself to Yen by magic, so the relationship is real but more than a little warped. Triss couldn't understand the whole thing and seduced Geralt out of curiosity. She didn't expect to fall in love with him, but she did, and it cost her the most important friendship in her life, though she remained generally quite loyal to Yennefer. When Yennefer eventually found out through Ciri, yes, she was rather annoyed.

How much do you want to know about the end of the book saga since the English-language publishers are taking their sweet time with the translations? Nothing counts as a spoiler for me, but that makes it tough to judge what other people can and can't take. Basically, Yennefer is older and more powerful than Triss, but every so often, under real stress, Triss will bust out mega-powerful spells (sometimes with help from other mages but not always) that she can't do at any other time. She's powerful in her own right, but she has much less control over it and is much less consistent than most other sorceresses we meet in the saga. She's also saved both Geralt and Yennefer's lives on separate occasions, so things are really really really complicated. Could be great fun in a third game. :)
Post edited May 21, 2011 by kyogen
I imagine the whole Yennefer thing comes across very differently if your only exposure to the Witcher is the video games.

My knowledge of Yen comes from the two english books and what my European friends told me back when the first Witcher game was published (one of whom was infuriated that it was Triss as the love interest and absolutely scornful of Shani). Now, as we finish W2, it becomes much more clear where the probable direction of the game and story is going. The details should be very interesting and entertaining. Enjoyed your confirmation of a few things from the books.

I should stop "anticipating" though. It'll likely be 2-4 years before the next game after all. :p Hopefully on the shorter side if they re-use the engine.
Post edited May 21, 2011 by revial
If they're smart (and I think they are), they'll do exactly what you said: develop the next game slowly and carefully using their brand new shiny engine. I don't think they would have created it without plans to keep using and tweaking it. It's also possible that they will also do another project in between TW2 and 3, who knows? I'm sure the bulk of their energy will be focused on TW2 fixes and such for the time being. They need to maybe go home and sleep a bit, too. Maybe have a beer or three to celebrate the game's release. If they're lucky, they won't end up like Geralt after he gets drunk with Roche's Blue Stripes. ;)
Well, since Triss was there all of Geralt's vital decisions and helped him, i'd go with Triss. Screw Yennefer lol.
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glosoli: Screw Yennefer lol.
Oh, I'm sure there'll be plenty of that. ;p

On a more serious note, your full comment illustrates the issue as I see it in that video game only players have no real empathy for Yennefer. Whether CPR is fine with that and provides some choice where you choose Triss over Yen for example, or if they try to-in the space of one game-shove empathy for her into the player's face to make up for 10 novels worth, well, we'll have to see. :)
Post edited May 21, 2011 by revial
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glosoli: Screw Yennefer lol.
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revial: Oh, I'm sure there'll be plenty of that. ;p

On a more serious note, your full comment illustrates the issue as I see it in that video game only players have no real empathy for Yennefer. Whether CPR is fine with that and provides some choice where you choose Triss over Yen for example, or if they try to-in the space of one game-shove empathy for her into the player's face to make up for 10 novels worth, well, we'll have to see. :)
5 novels, 2 volumes of short stories. Sorry, I'm terribly pedantic. But you're right. Gamers who only know of Yennefer through the games will have a much harder time empathizing with her. It's not enough to have her show up and everyone shrug their shoulders and say "well, Geralt loves her and it's fate or the last wish or whatever". However, this is the kind of thing that could make Triss's character really stand out. In the books at least, she's completely torn between Geralt and Yennefer--being in love with one and loving the other as a friend. Messy, but it could be the right perspective to help add depth for gamers who haven't been able to read the books. It wouldn't just be about Geralt's choices. TW2 kind of toys with this when it lets us play, briefly, as Triss or another main NPC.
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kyogen: 5 novels, 2 volumes of short stories. Sorry, I'm terribly pedantic.
Oh, woops. Not sure where I got 10 from.
i haven't read the books (planning to read after the game of thrones though) but as far as i can follow you guys' comments, there will be a real mess if Yen comes out alive. I hope devs develop the story about her good like they've done with two TW games.
Post edited May 21, 2011 by glosoli
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glosoli: i haven't read the books (planning to read after the game of thrones though) but as far as i can follow you guys' comments, there will be a real mess if Yen comes out alive. I hope devs develop the story about her good like they've done with two TW games.
I'm sure they'll be careful. They have been so far. They adore Sapkowski's works and want to make great games.

Game of Thrones is something I started recently. It's good, too. I'm pleasantly surprised. Hope you're enjoying it as well.