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kmanitou: Are you unironically islamophobic?
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Itsamnaaj: Decent bait. Are you a master baiter?
So a different faith is just a joke to you?
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Itsamnaaj: Decent bait. Are you a master baiter?
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kmanitou: So a different faith is just a joke to you?
Do you think Islam is joking with "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." (Abu Dawud 4448)?
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kmanitou: So a different faith is just a joke to you?
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Itsamnaaj: Do you think Islam is joking with "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." (Abu Dawud 4448)?
No, it's clear and advertised. No bad surprises.
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SarahGabriella: Does this game feature POC, especially black characters and LGBT characters in BG3?
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Moloch.: Some of the recruitable allies can be romanced by both male and female player characters, so I think the response to the LGBT question is yes.
One of the recruitable characters is black (Wyll). Lae'zel (another recruitable character) is a Githyanki, though I doubt this is what you meant by POC.

I haven't really paid attention if any of the NPCs were POC. If someone has already answered this question, feel free to skip the remainder of my post. Otherwise:

i) If you are considering buying this game in Early Access, you could watch a Let's Play to see if there are any. Sure, you risk getting some spoilers, but if you were considering buying BGIII in EA, you were bound to receive spoilers way before seeing the full game anyway.
ii) If you aren't, I'd recommend waiting until the full game is out, because it is possible that there are few POC NPCs in the first Act but many more in the following two. Someone is bound to mention this in a review if you are patient enough.

As for all the huge discussion of social justice in this thread, I would just like to say the following:

There is no need for being assholes. OK, you might not care about the number of POC and LGBT characters in the game, and I can perfectly understand that. OP does, though, and those that had nothing helpful at all to say should have just ignored this thread. Why try to change OP's worldview? She is just trying to make a very personal decision. If you don't like to use her criteria in order to decide whether to buy the game or not, don't use these criteria.
Thx dear. Yea, i worried about spoilers, thats why i rather asked than straight up look up vids. And im not spending 60 euro on a game if i dont know these things beforehand.
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Katarack21: 1) Biological sex isn't that simple. Chromosomes are way more complicated then that--XYY is more common that schizophrenia, and the majority of people who have it never even realize they do but go their whole life thinking their normal males. That isn't even getting into the weird things that can happen with hormones--androgen resistance is a real thing that can make a genetic XY person develop with a completely female body--or gene transposition like having a partial X chromosome overwrite the Y chromosome etc. Biological sex has *always* been more complicated then than the hard XX/XY dichotomy we simplify it as.

2) Biological sex has *nothing* to do with gender. There can be and have been and currently *are* many, many societies with more than two gender positions, sometimes five or six, and which gender you fall into is a social and psychological construct that is interrelated to how your biological sex is perceived by both yourself and others but is not dependent on it.

3) I don't know that you're bigoted, but you are *definitely* ignorant. That's not a *value* judgement, it's a statement about your lack of knowledge regarding the genetics, physiology, and anthropology of both sex and gender.
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TauLambda: 1) Yes genetics is complicated but a Y chromosome denotes male. Regardless mutation and expression, biologically speaking it =male. At no point did I say that someone with a Y chromosome always developed male sex characteristics. There are certainly times when this fails to happen. But the presence of Y nonetheless means they are male. Whether they choose to live in a male social role or not is a different question, one which I never argued.

2) I never brought up gender. I only referred to biological sex for the specific reason to remaining clear in my distinctions.

3) I am certainly ignorant in many ways which is why I like freedom of speech and discussion as it allows me to find out where I am wrong. But I am fairly confident in my biological distinction of the sexes. You can make cultural arguments about customs in different parts of the world as to how they represent male and female, and I would be right with you in agreement that society influences the roles each sex assumes, but biological sex is not a social construct and that's all I have referred to.
Where do i say anything about biological sex in my OP? Youre only here to sow division and lies. Want to talk about other crap? Go make your own thread. Thats free speech, which doesnt apply to the internet btw because the internet isnt murica so the damn constitution doesnt apply here.
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Itsamnaaj: This XY sex determination system is highly conserved amongst Animalia
Birds have neither an X nor a Y chromosome. (They have W's and Z's.)
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Itsamnaaj: This XY sex determination system is highly conserved amongst Animalia
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_Pax_: Birds have neither an X nor a Y chromosome. (They have W's and Z's.)
The avian ZW sex determination system is not relevant to this discussion.
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SarahGabriella: Where do i say anything about biological sex in my OP? Youre only here to sow division and lies. Want to talk about other crap? Go make your own thread. Thats free speech, which doesnt apply to the internet btw because the internet isnt murica so the damn constitution doesnt apply here.
You are the one spreading lies here, chief among them "trans women are women" and "trans men are men".

Also: you believe free speech is only an ideal to strive for when it is enshrined in law? That seems totalitarian.
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Like all good jihadis, I had my PC throw the Ann Rice/Twilight mashup off a roof. Anyone else have fond memories of genociding all the redguards in Skyrim? Skyrim is for the Nords!!!!
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_Pax_: Birds have neither an X nor a Y chromosome. (They have W's and Z's.)
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Itsamnaaj: The avian ZW sex determination system is not relevant to this discussion.
You brought the entire animal kingdom into it:
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Itsamnaaj: [...] Animalia
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Itsamnaaj: You are the one spreading lies here, chief among them "trans women are women" and "trans men are men".
.... and that's hate speech.
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Itsamnaaj: This XY sex determination system is highly conserved amongst Animalia
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_Pax_: Birds have neither an X nor a Y chromosome. (They have W's and Z's.)
Please stop raping birds. It isn't good for them.
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duffyj08: Like all good jihadis, I had my PC throw the Ann Rice/Twilight mashup off a roof. Anyone else have fond memories of genociding all the redguards in Skyrim? Skyrim is for the Nords!!!!
Well, in Nethack (wizard mode), I've genocided the entire human race (polymorphed into a non-human to avoid self-genocide) and then quit.
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duffyj08: Like all good jihadis, I had my PC throw the Ann Rice/Twilight mashup off a roof. Anyone else have fond memories of genociding all the redguards in Skyrim? Skyrim is for the Nords!!!!
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dtgreene: Well, in Nethack (wizard mode), I've genocided the entire human race (polymorphed into a non-human to avoid self-genocide) and then quit.
Shhhhhhhhhh. No bringing up any fun in this thread. Serious business, teh vidyuh games.
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dtgreene: Well, in Nethack (wizard mode), I've genocided the entire human race (polymorphed into a non-human to avoid self-genocide) and then quit.
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duffyj08: Shhhhhhhhhh. No bringing up any fun in this thread. Serious business, teh vidyuh games.
My runs of Nethack on wizard mode really aren't any less serious than you (or anyone else) playing Skyrim with console cheats.
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Itsamnaaj: The avian ZW sex determination system is not relevant to this discussion.
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_Pax_: You brought the entire animal kingdom into it:
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Itsamnaaj: [...] Animalia
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_Pax_:
You need some reading comprehension lessons. Nowhere did I state that all animals have the XY sex determination system. Mammals do however, and though you may have forgotten the taste of mother's milk; you, I and every other human is a mammal.

You're grasping at straws here.

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Itsamnaaj: You are the one spreading lies here, chief among them "trans women are women" and "trans men are men".
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_Pax_: .... and that's hate speech.
Anything that disagrees with the trans cult's dogma is "hate speech" nowadays. You know what is actual hate speech? Telling gays their sexuality is actually a "genital preference" that must be unlearned. Or calling women who refuse to let trans "women" into their woman-only spaces "TERFs".

Trans women are men, trans men are women. Keep this unscientific gender nonsense out of gaming.
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Itsamnaaj: Are you unironically homophobic?

One of the companions in Baldur's Gate 3, the vampire rogue, is gay and a romance option for the player character.
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kmanitou: Are you unironically islamophobic?
Actually you cannot select white people by default in this game, also if play this game you think that all characters are gays, most of them are.
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Itsamnaaj: You need some reading comprehension lessons. Nowhere did I state that all animals have the XY sex determination system. Mammals do however, and though you may have forgotten the taste of mother's milk; you, I and every other human is a mammal.
You said, and I quote, ANIMALIA. That means, "animals". Birds are animals.

If you do not mean a thing, then you should not say a thing - nor should you speak so imprecisely that you in effect do say that thing you did not mean.

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Itsamnaaj: Anything that disagrees with the trans cult's dogma is "hate speech" nowadays.
Anything that actively refutes and denies the existence, and truth, of someone just because you find the idea "icky" or lack the mental flexibility to learn new things?

Yep. Hate speech.

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Itsamnaaj: Trans women are men, trans men are women. Keep this unscientific gender nonsense out of gaming.
Gender and genetic sex are not interchangeable terms; the very idea of gender - that certain clothes, behaviors, mannerisms, jobs/tasks, etc are the exclusive or preferred domain of a specific sex - is neither more nor less than a social construct, not some sort of "natural law".

Transwomen are women.

Transmen are men.

Keep your transphobic bullshit where it belongs - stuck up your own ass, right alongside your fat head.