Well, clearly it doesn't deserve hate from everyone. The people here are expressing how much fun they've had with the game. That alone shows not everyone has had the same experience as you.

You have your problems with the game. I'm sorry to hear that. There are literally thousands of threads for you to post your hate in, why do you need to come into one entitled "Some love for the devs"?

Also, you post about performance issues but won't state what your specs are...? It's funny to me the amount of people expecting "Next Gen" quality from a game using older hardware. Maybe you're not one of those, and in that case I apologize for assuming. That having been said, my hardware is nowhere near top of the line but I've had zero performance issues aside from the occasional glitch. I think the game has crashed on me once in 18 hours of playtime.

I feel like everyone hating on this have completely forgotten how glitchy and rough The Witcher 3 was at launch. I picked that game up almost a year later and the controls sucked so bad I couldn't play it. They wound up fixing it, and I now think it's one of the best games I've played in recent years. I actually expected that to happen to me this time, was pleasantly surprised that I didn't have that experience.

Anyway, I'm sorry you were so disappointed in the game. The rest of us in this thread have had a good time and are just thanking the devs for bringing it to us. Don't worry, they're going to fix the game for you - even if it's a little later than you would have liked. Hopefully you get to enjoy the game like the rest of us when that happens.

No you're not.
Because I feel like it. Because it is currently giving me no end of ire and I need an outlet and what is a better outlet, than a thread that's all about giving the devs the hugs and positivity they've yet to deserve.
Performance, while an issue, would be a tolerable one (given that they'd also address it further down the road, mind you). It's the crashes that I have a big gripe with, namely that two times out of three, whenever I try to launch the game, my GPU driver (updated to the latest Cyberpunk-supported version, yes) shits the bed and stops responding. And if the bloody thing does launch, it'll take an hour of work at best before it crashes in the same fashion again. Which I deem kinda-sorta unacceptable. It's bad enough that it crashes, but that it crashes in THIS fashion is just ludicrous. I don't want this piece of unoptimized code to fry my GPU.

For the record, my specs are slightly above minimal, which should be enough to run the game on low settings - which is what I was running it on.
And what are you telling me this for? Is it supposed to make me feel better? It doesn't. Is it supposed to make me slightly more bitter? Mission accomplished then.
No, nobody has forgotten anything. I haven't forgotten how Witcher 2 and Witcher 1 weren't exactly the paragons of stability either. But you know what? They also weren't anywhere near this bad. And CDPR didn't try to obfuscate their technical state prior to release.
Good for you. Don't mind me hanging around here tho.
Somehow I'm not betting on it. All the talk that is going on now is about the console versions optimization. Which is also an incredibly bad messup on CDPR's part.

As I said, I've followed CD Projekt since Witcher 1 and this... yeah, this is just heartbreaking, how shameful this whole situation is. I've been their apologist for years. I've got a ton of games on GOG, as you could see for yourself. I bought myself AND my girlfriend GOG copies of CP2077. At least she's having a good time with it. I'm not. I'm really bitter. Because there's no zealot like a convert and CDPR managed to successfully convert me from their fan into... something else entirely.
You know what Dandelion says, "You never get a second occasion to make a first impression".

Pc version is fine if you have the specs for it.

According to the game's box, I do, so nope.

Yeah, I actually am. I honestly want people to like this game - I've waited for this thing since 2013, as perhaps maybe you did as well.

The point of telling you this was to illustrate that some of us have had extremely positive experiences. So as much as you feel that they don't deserve love, we feel just as strongly that they do. But it turns out that you knew this already seeing that your girlfriend is happy with the game.

An argument to this would be that they've never made a game this big, for so many platforms at once. I don't think they are trying to obfuscate either, if anything I'll bet the same devs you are hating on are working their butts off over holiday break to fix these issues.

Right. Well, while it may be your first impression of Cyberpunk 2077 - this doesn't sound like it's your first impression of CDPRed. You've even mentioned how they've gone back to fix the stability issues of the Witcher games, what makes you think this is going to be any different? Do you honestly think a AAA game launches these days without getting fixes later?

This perhaps is the most telling thing you've said, so I'll stop arguing with you. You're pissed, and you want to yell in this forum because it makes you feel better. Fair enough. I won't even say 'I told you so' when they fix the game and you're happy again. Sucks you'll have to wait for it, but hopefully it happens soon because you seem like a big fan that's been scorned. Hang in there, they got you man.

So did I, initially. All of those things, concern for CDPR's well-being, examples of Witcher games being janky at the start - yeah, I was saying all of that as well over the thursday and the friday, the first two days of release. A weekend to get more intimate with this broken mess has set me straight.

Well good for you that you feel that way. But I don't, and telling me how awesome everything is on your end only makes me more frustrated at getting excluded from this fun little club for no adequate reason.
They did try to objuscate it. They didn't allow reviewers to use their own footage and they didn't give out keys for the console version. That's as blatant an obfuscation as it gets and is the most insulting part of the whole thing. They knew that it wasn't ready for prime time yet chose to sell it as a complete product anyway.

Also, what holiday break? Christmas hasn't come yet, and as far as I know, Poland doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving.
Witcher 3's Russian localization has a really annoying quirk that a lot (and I mean A LOT, around 40-50%) of the voiced lines are played either too quick or too slow, distorting them. It was in there since day one and while they fixed select cases, the majority of the messed up voice lines remain as such. CDPR was responsible for the technical aspect of the localization, the local firm only did the translation and recording, and the addons didn't have that quirk, which means:
A) CDPR messed it up
B) CDPR has means to fix it, seeing as they did fix a few cases
C) CDPR elected not to do it.
I haven't forgotten about it and haven't forgiven it, but decided to give them another chance with Cyberpunk.
I clearly shouldn't have.
I played two AAA games this year, both on launch. One of them was DOOM: Eternal. Gorgeous one, runs fine enough on my old thing, did have a few annoying crashes, but I quickly learnt how to sidestep them and it was smooth sailing onwards.
The other was Cyberpunk.

In addition, I also played Serious Sam 4, which, like Cyberpunk, is a premiere example of slavjank. It was a mess technically, badly optimized, some of the features felt very unfinished. Still, it was perfectly playable and I was able to complete it. It has gotten better since, by the way, if you like OG shooters and tons of enemies, do check it out.
Beats sitting in the corner sulking that stupid CP2077 poster they gave me at the store.

We have to remember, the devs are only human beings. Not robots or demigods. Skilled and/or gifted but still human beings. So of course, a massive and ambitious project like this is going to be flawed after being released. It's not like a 2 hour long game and all you do in the game is run around and punch people in the face. And the price for a more polished game would be having to wait like another year etc... And there would be riots. :P

As critical and harsh as my critiques have been, I still have utmost respect for the CDPR developers. They have done something impressive with what they had to work with and I commend them for that. Time will obviously tell what happens and what will change.

Regardless, very well done CDPR.

Honestly? This is where a lot of my disdain comes into play. The shallow dialog, our control over V's character development is null (already pre-determined so why feel like we have any say in how they evolve?) and faction relations are laughably non-existent. If, for example, I slaughter swathes of Maelstrom before I meet Royce, he doesn't care. None of them do. Peace should not be an option at that point.

So again, what really irks me, is that the role-playing from Cyberpunk 2020 does not exist in Cyberpunk 2077. Besides that, and the awful PC graphics (don't tell me you feel immersed watching the city and its surrounding areas render 10 metres at a time), CP 2077 is solid so far.