If trent is scum I'm sure his buddy got some instructions for the current situation, because it was likely that he would get lynched today.

@joe: still waiting on that votecount mate. My connection here is really lousy...

trent is at L-1:
5 - Trentonlf — SirPrimalform, LOLchan, Lifthrasil, ( #298), RedFireGaming ( #315), GameRager ( #335)
Everyone else is holding their votes, although I think everyone else has also voiced a willingness to vote for trent.

Ok, so after LOLchan finally finds his voice, I think we can bring this to a conclusion.

Deadline on Tuesday. Looks good.

I can see his buddy coming to his defense just from the fact that agent's gambit doesn't make a lot of sense, and that if that buddy loses trent, he'll basically be up against an army of townies. Then all it would take is for that scum to appear slightly scummy, and he loses the game.

So I can see why a scummy GameRager would go to scummy trent's defense. He's probably not confident enough to carry the whole game on his shoulders as practically the only scum, and as he repeatedly notes not just in this game but in the others, his play style is one that makes him highly likely for a lynch, which would explain why he needs scumbuddy trent alive; to support him whenever he's inching close to a lynch and to tell him how to avoid that situation.

As an addendum to my previous post: I see GameRager's "he cleared Korotan then implicated me" point as a weak argument against gogtrial which doesn't address much about him. It's an attempt to divert the attention to korotan/gogtrial rather than himself. At least I made a quick and dirty ISO on GameRager and looked up for instances where he mentions Korotan and he's at least consistent in that he suspected korotan way before gogtrial took his place, so I'll give him credit for that, but I would urge him to focus on gogtrial's points about him, not about korotan, if he wishes to turn things around.

As per blotunga's post above, LOLchan hasn't had the chance to contribute. It seems that you're trying to pressurise people to finish the day early. I'm holding off until everyone has had their fair chance to offer their opinions. I will happily hammer trent, but not until LOLchance makes an appearance, and GameRager returns to dig himself an even bigger hole than he is already standing in.

No, I'm pressuring you specifically for not contributing and expecting everyone else to do the legwork. More than half your posts today have been variations of "let's wait and see what happens", but you're not in any way an agent of causing things to happen. The point that we shouldn't end the day prematurely is a very valid one, that I agree with, but you're repeating it a fair bit too often for my tastes, and I'm getting a bit of an impression of hiding in plain sight.
At the point where you made your latest "Information is power, so I'm in no rush to end the day early." post, lolchan hadn't posted anything substantial since the very beginning of the day, nor given any indication that he was planning to (that post of his came after yours), so I hold it against you that you weren't actively trying to get that to change, particularly as blotunga had called you out previously for not contributing, and you then stating "I can't really add much".

I'm not sure what else you want from me? I have declared that I will hammer trent once we have heard from everyone. I've stated that I believe agent, trent and GameRager to be the scum team. My opinion has not changed since coming to these conclusions.

There isnt anything else to add, that hasn't already been said by others (yourself included), and I agree with the stance of the majority. Trent is at L-1, so I'm not going to end the day until those who have already expressed they have more to add have the opportunity to do so.

Nope. That's a fallacy we fell for in the last two games. Not falling for that one again!

Please do. We're all waiting for your input.

Yes, I don't like being the primary suspect either, but as long as you're alive, you can still scumhunt, react, roleplay, or anything else. And since wagons tend to stall at L-1, attention might turn to someone else in the meantime, or even if you do end up lynched, you might have a chance to discuss something other than your own possible scumminess.

It's good to see Pooka giving some more posts. He's looking a bit more town than when I posted earlier. We just need that last post from LOLChan.

So Nmillar, since you said your opinion hasn't deviated from the majority, who do you think is scum if GameRager flipped town?

SPF, obviously!

But, on a more serious note, if GameRager flips town, then I think one of the lurkers is more likely. Pooka or LOLchan are a possibility.

It pains me to say it, but based on their play so far, SPF and gogtrial are the two I get the strongest town vibes from. Their posts seem like they are genuinely scum hunting, though SPF has tailed off a bit lately.

On the gamerager is scum discussion.

Since D-2 he’s been trying to push suspicion on the players voting against trent.
As well as all who voted for him naturally? If trent is scum it would be the opposite. Those who defend or stall a vote on trent would appear scummy.
do you really believe that the third scum would be stupid enough to bus trent after trent was seen as scumy for busing agent?

There were others that had voiced suspicions of trent that were withholding their votes to prevent a hammer.

And gameranger’s strange defenses on trent being town after saying we should lynch him. This is best shown by gogtrails post 321.

As of posting suspicions on game ranger will probably hold unless trent flips town or something strange happens in night phase.

I kind of feel like I've run out of things to say until we see Trent's flip... I've been following the thread though!

I agree that with a scum!Trent flip GR looks likely, although surely he'd know better than to be so obvious? Really I am just anxious to find out if I'm right about Trent.

So shall I do the honors?

Let LOLchan have their say first.

He did so 3 posts above

As for Lift saying that we shouldn't discard GameRager being scum, maybe so, we'll know more after trent flips