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Why doesn't GOG staff have rep like the rest of us?

Don't get me wrong, I don't really care about rep, but I know others do and when i went to downrep a gog staffer's post, i realized I couldn't do that, and it irked me a little. With all the complaints, you'd think they could make an example by subjecting themselves to it, too, right? It'd actually be a great way for GOG customers to democratically vote on certain policies regarding thread locking, cancellation of releases, or the addition of a game that we don't like, no? Great way to vet, no?
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kohlrak: Why doesn't GOG staff have rep like the rest of us?

Don't get me wrong, I don't really care about rep, but I know others do and when i went to downrep a gog staffer's post, i realized I couldn't do that, and it irked me a little. With all the complaints, you'd think they could make an example by subjecting themselves to it, too, right? It'd actually be a great way for GOG customers to democratically vote on certain policies regarding thread locking, cancellation of releases, or the addition of a game that we don't like, no? Great way to vet, no?
It would, but this place is against any real form of democracy in any way, as you are well aware.
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kohlrak: Why doesn't GOG staff have rep like the rest of us?

Don't get me wrong, I don't really care about rep, but I know others do and when i went to downrep a gog staffer's post, i realized I couldn't do that, and it irked me a little. With all the complaints, you'd think they could make an example by subjecting themselves to it, too, right? It'd actually be a great way for GOG customers to democratically vote on certain policies regarding thread locking, cancellation of releases, or the addition of a game that we don't like, no? Great way to vet, no?
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Lord_Kane: It would, but this place is against any real form of democracy in any way, as you are well aware.
Then why appeal to "many gamers"? I mean, sure, you're right, but there's not enough calling of gog out on their bullshit. Not just GOG, but public corporations in general. Seems we need more children from the emperor's new clothes (the parable), these days.
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I would expect that the bots that downvote GamezRanker to oblivion (-2306 and counting) would immediately target GOG accounts as well.

Within a week, nobody employed by CDPR will have sufficient reputation to post links. Any forum post advertising a new game or sale would instead include the instructions "go to the front page and search for ..."

On the bright side, there are free mod points for the taking for the first non-CDPR poster to fill in the relevant links.
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kohlrak: Why doesn't GOG staff have rep like the rest of us?

Don't get me wrong, I don't really care about rep, but I know others do and when i went to downrep a gog staffer's post, i realized I couldn't do that, and it irked me a little. With all the complaints, you'd think they could make an example by subjecting themselves to it, too, right? It'd actually be a great way for GOG customers to democratically vote on certain policies regarding thread locking, cancellation of releases, or the addition of a game that we don't like, no? Great way to vet, no?
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Lord_Kane: It would, but this place is against any real form of democracy in any way, as you are well aware.
off course it is not a democracy.... it is a store for games. you want to vote on who is going to be the next CEO?

I wonder what kind of democracy TESCO or Toys r' Us has...
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amok: off course it is not a democracy.... it is a store for games. you want to vote on who is going to be the next CEO?

I wonder what kind of democracy TESCO or Toys r' Us has...
You'd be surprised. Democratically aligned companies have enjoyed some of the least rocky histories and the best employments, such as IKEA, Valve, or Nintendo. When the workers are the body, great things occur.
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Lord_Kane: It would, but this place is against any real form of democracy in any way, as you are well aware.
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kohlrak: Then why appeal to "many gamers"? I mean, sure, you're right, but there's not enough calling of gog out on their bullshit. Not just GOG, but public corporations in general. Seems we need more children from the emperor's new clothes (the parable), these days.
Haha.
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Lord_Kane: It would, but this place is against any real form of democracy in any way, as you are well aware.
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amok: off course it is not a democracy.... it is a store for games. you want to vote on who is going to be the next CEO?

I wonder what kind of democracy TESCO or Toys r' Us has...
Maybe using the word democracy is wrong here, but people who seem critical of gog and its recent actions get down-voted and attacked for nothing but offering critique of GOG's actions, but then again my propensity to be hyperbolic doesnt help, the word I mean is communication, gogs communication has been poor since the start and getting worse over the years, and that needs to change and soon,

I really need to stop posting when I am dead dog tired.
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Mortius1: I would expect that the bots that downvote GamezRanker to oblivion (-2306 and counting) would immediately target GOG accounts as well.

Within a week, nobody employed by CDPR will have sufficient reputation to post links. Any forum post advertising a new game or sale would instead include the instructions "go to the front page and search for ..."

On the bright side, there are free mod points for the taking for the first non-CDPR poster to fill in the relevant links.
I figured as much. That said, they could then fix the system pretty quickly and make it reputable after resetting everyone's rep.
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amok: off course it is not a democracy.... it is a store for games. you want to vote on who is going to be the next CEO?

I wonder what kind of democracy TESCO or Toys r' Us has...
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Darvond: You'd be surprised. Democratically aligned companies have enjoyed some of the least rocky histories and the best employments, such as IKEA, Valve, or Nintendo. When the workers are the body, great things occur.
I've not heard this about Nintendo. Tell me more.
Post edited February 17, 2021 by kohlrak
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Lord_Kane: It would, but this place is against any real form of democracy in any way, as you are well aware.
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amok: off course it is not a democracy.... it is a store for games. you want to vote on who is going to be the next CEO?

I wonder what kind of democracy TESCO or Toys r' Us has...
yup , i want to vote for ceo
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kohlrak: Why doesn't GOG staff have rep like the rest of us?
Forum rep serves no real purpose for regular users (aside from some posting restrictions if low or negative), and it would serve even less of a purpose for staff members. I've lost track of the amount of times the rep system has been exploited on the forums, usually in retaliation, with bots etc.
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Mortius1: I would expect that the bots that downvote GamezRanker to oblivion (-2306 and counting) would immediately target GOG accounts as well.

Within a week, nobody employed by CDPR will have sufficient reputation to post links. Any forum post advertising a new game or sale would instead include the instructions "go to the front page and search for ..."

On the bright side, there are free mod points for the taking for the first non-CDPR poster to fill in the relevant links.
That bot situation could be dealt with if there was a requirement to reach a low number of rep yourself. Auto-once-a-day +1 not counting towards that. Say, +10 rep, achieved by up-votes of active community members. Another way around this could be to mandate the purchase of a game at least worth 10 bugs so to be able to do anything at all besides posting something on the forums. Not fool-proof and there may be ways to work around this somehow, crafty people those bot writers, it would at least put a temporary block in their way.

To OP: For what reason would you down- or up-vote mods? You can tell them when you're dissatisfied with the way things are going or how they handle moderation. Voting alone does nothing and comes with no practical consequence as does for the rest of us, specifically those with very low or negative reputation. Besides, as Mortius1 already mentioned, would only lead to bots up/down-voting mods and a select few community members into oblivion.

If it was possible and GOG staff becomes a target for bots, I bet 1 in a mill that reputation system would be reworked in a matter of hours. ;-)
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kohlrak: I figured as much. That said, they could then fix the system pretty quickly and make it reputable after resetting everyone's rep. I've not heard this about Nintendo. Tell me more.
So Nintendo was more or less a shot in the dark. Nintendo tends to be very opaque in the ethereal internals. However, the various interviews and circumstances surrounding Nintendo make it appear as a relaxed internal structure.
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Mortius1: Within a week, nobody employed by CDPR will have sufficient reputation to post links. Any forum post advertising a new game or sale would instead include the instructions "go to the front page and search for ..."
Even if that was the case, they would just reset their rep counter. Or enter an absurd number of rep points. It's their system and they can exploit it however they want, no?
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amok: off course it is not a democracy.... it is a store for games. you want to vote on who is going to be the next CEO?

I wonder what kind of democracy TESCO or Toys r' Us has...
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Darvond: You'd be surprised. Democratically aligned companies have enjoyed some of the least rocky histories and the best employments, such as IKEA, Valve, or Nintendo. When the workers are the body, great things occur.
aye, and how many of them are run by the customers?

You can only call them 'democratic' in that only a certain group of people are allowed to vote. And still, they are run by the executives, they can make decitions that the majority of the employees are in disagrement with, and there is nothing they can do. a flat company structure =/= democracy.

The closest I know is the co-op chains of things, but even then...
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amok: off course it is not a democracy.... it is a store for games. you want to vote on who is going to be the next CEO?

I wonder what kind of democracy TESCO or Toys r' Us has...
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Orkhepaj: yup , i want to vote for ceo
dosn't mean you get to
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kohlrak: I figured as much. That said, they could then fix the system pretty quickly and make it reputable after resetting everyone's rep. I've not heard this about Nintendo. Tell me more.
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Darvond: So Nintendo was more or less a shot in the dark. Nintendo tends to be very opaque in the ethereal internals. However, the various interviews and circumstances surrounding Nintendo make it appear as a relaxed internal structure.
if that's what you want, then everyones favorite company Valve is the shinig example of relaxed and flat company strucutres. it is one of the things they are most famous of. Still.... not a democracy....
Post edited February 17, 2021 by amok
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Mortius1: Within a week, nobody employed by CDPR will have sufficient reputation to post links. Any forum post advertising a new game or sale would instead include the instructions "go to the front page and search for ..."
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Vythonaut: Even if that was the case, they would just reset their rep counter. Or enter an absurd number of rep points. It's their system and they can exploit it however they want, no?
The loss of staff linking privileges was somewhat facetious, but cheating the rep system in a visible manner tells the world "we are poorly regarded and we have to pretend that we are liked".

So why bother having rep in the first place?