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General discussionOffline installers with an option to install GOG Galaxy(1687 posts)(1687 posts)
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Posted July 06, 2017
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Thanks for bearing with us in this thread. We’d like to announce that today we’ve introduced the addition of new installers, with implemented GOG Galaxy client.

Like Destro described it back in May, we decided to separate the „new" and „classic” installers, for your choice. So if you don’t care about the features like achievements or cloud-saves and don’t want to use GOG Galaxy, you can download the „Classic Game Installer", just like it was handled before. For games that have new installers, the default download view on „My account” will show the "GOG Galaxy Game Installers" - you will notice that, as it is visibly described in „My account” game view. To download the „classic” ones, just go to „Options" and choose „Classic Installers”.

The new GOG Galaxy Game Installers were added to +100 games - a selection of all games that make use of GOG Galaxy features. I'll post the current list of games with the new installers in a separate post.
Going forward, all new games that will use GOG Galaxy features, will now receive both GOG Galaxy Game Installer and Classic Game Installer.

Introduction of GOG Galaxy Game Installers doesn’t change anything in terms of keeping the Classic Game Installers up to date. As soon as we receive an update for any game, we will prepare an updated version of the classic installer, just like it was done in the past.

Edit: Pinned.
Post edited July 06, 2017 by fables22
Posted May 11, 2017
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Piranjade: Would it maybe be possible to just have something like a "global" opt out?

So once an offline installer asks you whether you want to install Galaxy you can choose "never ask me this again" after choosing "No"?
Already asked and answered (more or less). In short - "maybe in the future". And yes, there are absolutely no technical problems to prevent this - GOG installers already do this for the default install folder. I guess someone "forgot" about implementing this.
Posted May 11, 2017
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Just another poster replying to say I do not support this.

If you want to put a link to the galaxy installer somewhere on the game page, fine. But packing it in the downloaders with it checked by default to install isn't something I'm in favor of.

I'm not sure how big the installer is, but whatever the size, its wasted bandwidth for people that use the offline installers. Yeah I know its probably "not much" in terms of today's game sizes, but not everyone lives in a place where speedy unlimited internet is a thing. Every byte counts for them.

Then you have the possibility of installing it when you don't want to. Yeah you can "just uninstall it!", but packing it in to begin with feels like eventual forcing of it to be installed for some games to run. You may say it won't today, but down the road we can never be sure. Last week packing this in the installers would have been dismissed as paranoia, yet here we are now.
Post edited May 11, 2017 by Fictionvision
Posted May 11, 2017
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Nymes: But I understand that GOG wants to promote the use of Galaxy. Maybe it would be better, if they would add a big, visible download button on the main page or would add the installer automatically to everyone's accounts. Could be a compromise.
Wow, now that's great idea! Why not have the Galaxy download available from everybody's account page? When anyone visits their library they would see the option to download Galaxy. Nothing obtrusive or tasteless, just a reminder of it as a download/library manager alternative to the web browsers. No more cluttering the website with Galaxy advertising, just put a link where it actually matters: with the account library. Clean, unobtrusive, no bundles, no extra management and coordination, and easy for new members to find because it's right there with their list of games.

Seems like the best place to put it, exactly the moment it would be useful to know about Galaxy, just before downloading any purchased games from the member's library. Maybe a small button, something like "Manage with Galaxy", and have that be a link to the page describing Galaxy's features and the download link. Seems to me like that would be a lot less work for GOG to do than trying to keep 2000 games updated with an installer, or updated with the correct link to a webpage for Galaxy within 2000 game installers. No checkbox, no extra settings, nothing new to learn.

Seems like I've heard it's possible to open applications on a computer from a webpage, maybe even check for whether an application is already installed. If so, then the button on the webpage could open Galaxy if already installed, and if not installed then go to Galaxy's description page.
Post edited May 11, 2017 by thomq
Posted May 11, 2017
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Does this mean that all windows installers will now require Windows 7?

Because the Galaxy page clearly states GOG Galaxy Client requires Windows 7 or newer.

I understand that installing files and running a client are different, but these days I don't know who to trust.
Posted May 11, 2017
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Because I believe this is just another step toward making your "optional" client mandatory I'm not going to buy from your store any longer. Why stay with a small company that is actively moving to a mandatory pathetic client, has a disaster for forum software, web developers that seem to break two items for every one that they fix, and can't keep their games updated/patched when I can go to the company that they're sadly trying to emulate. Over the last twelve months I've purchased over ninety games/DLC's/season passes on GOG, now steam will get that business.
Posted May 11, 2017
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It's the end of the world as we know it!!!!
Posted May 11, 2017
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thomq: Seems like I've heard it's possible to open applications on a computer from a webpage, maybe even check for whether an application is already installed. If so, then the button on the webpage could open Galaxy if already installed, and if not installed then go to Galaxy's description page.
That's how magnet links using the BitTorrent protocol work. You click them in a browser, the browser then immediately redirects you to the relevant torrent application. Should also be possible to detect whether an application is installed or not.
Posted May 11, 2017
So whenever Galaxy goes to a new version or itself gets an update, won't that mean that GOG themselves will have to update every single self contained installer for every single game on their servers (well the initial 100 anyway) to have the new version built in? Sounds like a job for the work experience kid if I ever saw one.
Post edited May 11, 2017 by CMOT70
Posted May 11, 2017
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Oh, GOG. You'll never learn...
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Posted May 11, 2017
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fables22: Just so we don't have a misunderstanding here - the setting won't be saved to start with. The questions was whether there's a plan for it, I figured that meant "is there a plan that in the future the setting will be saved" which, to my knowledge, there is. But I will clarify and confirm/update.
and we all know how "good" you are at "clarifying"
Posted May 11, 2017
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Fictionvision: Just another poster replying to say I do not support this.

If you want to put a link to the galaxy installer somewhere on the game page, fine. But packing it in the downloaders with it checked by default to install isn't something I'm in favor of.

I'm not sure how big the installer is, but whatever the size, its wasted bandwidth for people that use the offline installers. Yeah I know its probably "not much" in terms of today's game sizes, but not everyone lives in a place where speedy unlimited internet is a thing. Every byte counts for them.

Then you have the possibility of installing it when you don't want to. Yeah you can "just uninstall it!", but packing it in to begin with feels like eventual forcing of it to be installed for some games to run. You may say it won't today, but down the road we can never be sure. Last week packing this in the installers would have been dismissed as paranoia, yet here we are now.
Pretty much this for me, though the size is more about external backup space for me.
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CMOT70: So whenever Galaxy goes to a new version or itself gets an update, won't that mean that GOG themselves will have to update every single self contained installer for every single game on their servers (well the initial 100 anyway) to have the new version built in? Sounds like a job for the work experience kid if I ever saw one.
Yeah, that sounds like a alot of needless work on gog's end too considering the negative response of this thread so far.
Post edited May 11, 2017 by haydenaurion
Posted May 11, 2017
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Frozen: Oh, GOG. You'll never learn...
They don't. Even that was a repeat of the exact same "marketing campaign" that they had with "Nowa extra klasyka" a few years earlier.
Posted May 11, 2017
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I remember getting lambasted for suggesting Galaxy was stealth DRM because it was required for a lot of newer online games. The majority of the community also never really seemed to care much early on when galaxy was plastering the main page or when it became the default download button option.

Putting it in with old games is amusing as well as I'm sure the majority of us who purchase them were using pc's back when they weren't so friendly as they are nowadays and so we're fully capable of dealing with the extremely complicated process of downloading a few files and running an installer.
Posted May 11, 2017
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synfresh: Some of you have been living in some sort of alternate reality or just being really naive if you didn't think stuff like this was coming down the pipe. As a business, you don't market the hell out of this piece of software that has been years in development if you just treat it as some side-piece. You don't promote the hell out of it and put it all over your website if it's just some little add on.

They can say optional as much as they want and by the purest definition of the word it probably will always be optional. But don't be fooled for a second that it is their hope to have a majority of their users in Galaxy. This is just another little nudge to encourage that end goal.
For some of us, we'd seen that this was the logical endpoint of them going back on their promise of not using Regional Pricing: client-based DRM on GOG.
Posted May 11, 2017
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synfresh: Some of you have been living in some sort of alternate reality or just being really naive if you didn't think stuff like this was coming down the pipe. As a business, you don't market the hell out of this piece of software that has been years in development if you just treat it as some side-piece. You don't promote the hell out of it and put it all over your website if it's just some little add on.

They can say optional as much as they want and by the purest definition of the word it probably will always be optional. But don't be fooled for a second that it is their hope to have a majority of their users in Galaxy. This is just another little nudge to encourage that end goal.
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rampancy: For some of us, we'd seen that this was the logical endpoint of them going back on their promise of not using Regional Pricing: client-based DRM on GOG.
But dewd, we're going to get "online functionality" up the wazoo!!! lol
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