i just dont think you understand our country. that you write teh above as a statement of fact is gross lee simpifyin' and Id love to know exact lee how you came to that conclusion, an' what experience with the US military an' teh people that join you have

aside from serving their country (their country, not teh government of teh day) there are a wide variety of discounts, special loans, skills to learn, medical an' dental plans (this is teh big one), etc. for many it is teh most rational choice, an' has diddly squat to do with politics; as i said before thats what other people inject into it

an' i write this as somebody thats not particular lee rah-rah-rah

But there is no war in Spec-Ops: the Line, at least as far as I understand term "war".

I'm sorry you feel that way. You are wrong, of course, but I am terribly sorry you feel that thanking someone for making a sacrifice (and it is a sacrifice to not be with your family on Christmas because you are deployed overseas, for example) for what is hopefully the benefit of others. It isn't about America, or anyone else, but rather that those special people who feel that their path lies in the military of their country are appreciated for their own acts. If that is a political statement to you, then I don't know what to say.



Thank you, Fairfox for your interpretation.

To everyone else, I am terribly sorry that I have an appreciation for what soldiers and sailors go through and that sometimes, a simple thank you is enough to let them know that their loss of time and personal freedom is not overlooked. That is ALL there is to it. Do European countries really see everything to do with military members (foreign and domestic) as a political thing? Do you hate your own soldiers for deciding to serve in your own country's military forces? This is simply about respect.
There was one, and then there was just occupation of the area, and then there were life threatening sand storm moving in. And then there was the time the game took place.

If the US stopped waging war all over the planet, the soldiers wouldn't have to miss Xmas and other holidays while "deployed" on the other side of the world. Wouldn't have to celebrate these silly days either. Just stop waging war and reduce the madness.

Start trying to be like a normal country instead. Most of the other ~200 countries get along more or less fine. You should try it.

there is no wai youre talking about planet earth

No problemo.

People will always fight over various things....even if we dropped all conflicts we participate in others would just fight others regardless. Also if we didn't try to defend anyone we'd get flak for not helping others out and be called uncaring.

As for not celebrating.....people would still celebrate even if war wasn't a thing....we honor the dead in many countries for various reasons as a species.

I am willing to bet if we knew your country of origin we could find something they had a hand in as well...don't act like your own country is a saint.

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Now THIS is how people should be replying to this thread.

My grandfather flew B-25s throughout Italy.

You're welcome.

My grandfather(mother's father) was a cook on a battleship during ww2, and my dad served in either vietnam or korea(I forget which).

I'm sure the Wehrmacht is glad you weren't at Nuremberg with that attitude.

I have tried to be cordial and diplomatic. I have pleaded that holidays like Veterans Day are ubiquitous -- which is true -- and that armies across most nations have done both good and terrible things -- which is also true. You claim I attacked people (including yourself) on this board by simply saying students of history might be slower to accuse... sobeit; if suggesting people should look inward before casting stones is an attack, I am guilty. Lastly, although you made this thread political, I have confessed that politically I agreed with some of your points (although many were incorrect and built on skewed assumptions) but you continued your arrogant, shameless, and hypocrisy-laden tirade bent on an "us" vs "them" mentality. That's why I am not easily letting this go.

I am no war-monger and to be fair have severe political issues with many "wars" undertaken in recent memory, but reducing the very real men and women -- people with hopes and dreams and families -- into mindless political automatons doing the bidding of "the devil" is sickening. Dehumanizing others is the first step in making them enemies. The fact that you cannot appreciate their human sacrifice -- or simply refuse to do so -- for your political beliefs is telling. But then to you this is all the "silver-tongued" wording of an American apologist.

May you have a long life of misguided hatred toward people much more like yourself than you'd ever think... instead of directly at those that wield power and exercise it upon us all.

BTW... I still suggest you read about Italy's savage colonial subjugation of Libya... and the concentration camps where Arabs were imprisoned and killed.

I'm not acting like the country I happen to be born in are saints. Nor most other countries for that matter. But the vast majority of other countries are what one might call "normal".

That said, Norway (there you go) like to pretend we are peace loving negotiators that go around the world solving conflicts. That's the image the government (all of them) try to maintain. The reality of course is rather different. Well, THAT is part of the reality, but we also join in the various wars the US fight, so Norway most certainly are not saints. Especially not when it comes to NOT waging war. To my great personal regret, the various governments have done plenty of that. And some of them should be on trial in the Hague for it, like many other US and European leaders.

PS: Sorry for the bump, I've not been here for a while, and checked the notifications.