Atlo: You can't run it normally, (Well you can, it just throws some missing *.dll'' errors) because it needs some spyware from Win10.

Atlo: Support may have officially ended, but windows still likes to throw some surprise ''updates''. Got 2 recently.

One was the browser Edge, don't remember what the second one was.
Microsoft Security Essentials also still receives updates (Though you cannot DL it anymore). Info

Still have no idea what OP is talking about, though. I blame drugs.

Also, a liitle tidbit; bit the bullet recently and DL'ed the Epic Launcher.
You can't run it normally, (Well you can, it just throws some missing *.dll'' errors) because it needs some spyware from Win10.

timppu: I stopped accepting updates to my Windows 7, fortunately just before MS apparently added some Win10-like telemetry to it in an update. For all I know, MS will add, if they haven't already, a nag screen that Windows 7 support has ended and you really should move on to Windows 10. I'm trying to avoid all that.

Then again as it isn't receiving security fixes anymore, I try not to go online with it unless I really have to, and at some point I will disable internet connectivity from it completely, and use it only for offline gaming (for games that work better on Windows 7 than 10). I also have Linux on that same machine which is for online use.

I can live with the Windows 10 user interface and get work done there or play games on it, but I still think it is a bit stupid and incoherent in some ways (compared to e.g. Windows 7, or even the Linux GUIs I use). Things like:

- Split-brain syndrome where some of the settings and stuff is in the old "control panel" like user interface, and some in the newer, simplified/dummified, user interface. Some settings are even in both. Incoherent.

- I still haven't gotten over it how bad the Start menu is compared to Windows 7 (and earlier), mainly related to having no subfolders in the menu. That makes it harder for me to find some applications in the menu, e.g. if I want to check what GOG games I've installed to the machine and what shortcuts each of them have. In Windows 7, I have one clear GOG.com folder under which my GOG games are, grouped together.

The flat Windows 10 Start menu is just messy compared to the multilayered Windows 7 Start menu.

Overall I feel current Windows 10 is under some kind of transition period, trying to move from the "old classic" Windows interface to something else, the modern UI. That's why it is currently so messy and incoherent. But I guess you can get used to its quirks, until they overhaul it once again.

Nible1: Also, a liitle tidbit; bit the bullet recently and DL'ed the Epic Launcher.
You can't run it normally, (Well you can, it just throws some missing *.dll'' errors) because it needs some spyware from Win10.

Truth007: They should make the UI more like Windows 7, Windows 7 is light years way better than 10 as an OS.

Zimerius: guys guys guys cmon.... one has the ' master of the universe thing going one, the other uses the name pds41 for him or her self .... like really? and your bickering about not understanding something , even pulling the passive agressive card ... sheesh

Darvond: The only two things I care about from the Masters of the Universe are Skeletor and Catra. If you're using machine translation, I suggest instead asking for an English typing friend to dictate for you.

Darvond: You do realize that Windows 7 was discontinued last year in terms of public consumer support right?

timppu: I stopped accepting updates to my Windows 7, fortunately just before MS apparently added some Win10-like telemetry to it in an update.

toxicTom: Which leaves people in a bind...

Stay with an outdated OS that may be vulnerable (although I think MS will still fix the worst things, like they did with XP even many years later), or use an OS that doesn't even hide spying on you, may randomly delete all your data with a forced upgrade you can't prevent (has happened twice already) and is otherwise more like a "we own this machine, not you" smartphone OS.

I think going Linux would be the best way - if you can - and it's really a shame GOG doesn't support this more. Stil "too niche" to be worth the effort probably.
True - but it actually asks you if you want to enable it, and you can say no. Think of EULAs what you want, but MS - by their own rules - have to stick to those too ;-)

toxicTom: Which leaves people in a bind...

Stay with an outdated OS that may be vulnerable (although I think MS will still fix the worst things, like they did with XP even many years later), or use an OS that doesn't even hide spying on you, may randomly delete all your data with a forced upgrade you can't prevent (has happened twice already) and is otherwise more like a "we own this machine, not you" smartphone OS.

Darvond: Wine has made amazing strides in recent times, but I know there are specific use cases that a lot of people seem to bog on.

teceem: Sure you can prevent that. Have you tried googling it?

toxicTom: And IMatch... which I use to organise my photos. There are hundreds of hours in that too.

toxicTom: Which leaves people in a bind...

Stay with an outdated OS that may be vulnerable (although I think MS will still fix the worst things, like they did with XP even many years later), or use an OS that doesn't even hide spying on you, may randomly delete all your data with a forced upgrade you can't prevent (has happened twice already) and is otherwise more like a "we own this machine, not you" smartphone OS.

I think going Linux would be the best way - if you can - and it's really a shame GOG doesn't support this more. Stil "too niche" to be worth the effort probably.