Is this thread the public toilet of this forum? Somebody ought to clean it at least, it's starting to reek.

Well, at least in war movies, main protagonist's friends are dying on his hands like flies, usually.

"It's too late for me. Go!" - one of the most overused lines in cinematic history.

What is strange, when a man dies like that, nobody says it is sexist. Everybody are rather focusing on how brave and noble the dying character is - so selfless, he's not thinking about him dying, but to save his friends yet standing beside him.

One of the response videos to Anita's was pretty awesome - we should more focus about what those characters represent, what they do, not what happens to them. characters should not be described by what happens to them. Like an amazing princess Zelda example. She is noble, wise, kind, selfless, compassionate, loves her people, but no...! She is a damsel in distress because someone kidnaps her. With her kidnapped, everything in the kingdom goes to shit - there is no peace in the land anymore, and the monsters are invading.

I don't agree we should see those characters like that. They are much, much more than just that.

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Domestic violence against men is a problem, as is rape of men as well. Tacit approval of serious negative behavior, such as by presenting it in media as a non-issue or even one of comedic value, should certainly be opposed.

I'm glad to see we can still agree on something :)

That is a good point. I think that is reason behind her videos. She cannot find the type of game she wants to play.

Thanks!

That's quite my opinion too but :

1) The cause is fine : in modern society the place of women is rarely good. I support this idea.

2) The image we give children in their "media" is a source of the problem. It's an educatinal problem : princesses and shiny armoured knights in fairy tales, mario-plots in videogames ... that's my opinion and in her video, she just tries to blame the videogames when the whole industry (Disney first) is guilty of 'cultivating' that kind of ideas.

In the end her point miss the target because I am sure that parents in their majority wouldn't endorse a game not abiding by these tropes, and teenagers don't give a shite.

Yup (among other things). I relate because I cannot find the games I want to play.

Aren't you too picky? Even I, who loaths almost everything what happened to gaming since around 2005 manage to find new games to enjoy.

I think that's true, and violence in either direction is a problem. Still, in the context of this video what bothers me is that she discusses a connection between these games and general attitudes and how they tie to violence, when it's all just speculation. It's no better than blaming video games for a crazy person's shooting attack, and in possible worse, since it's even more tenuous.

These tropes do present a problem in that they can alienate women who want to play such games. It would certainly be good if game creators gave female gamers more of a thought (and better yet, made women a regular part of game creation). But I'd rather that the subject be treated at that level than at the speculative "games and tropes make our real life bad".

Oh it is and I don't disagree, but then I wasn't saying that at all :P Whatever the reason was for the post it was unacceptable, but if they actually believe what they wrote then it's also scary. I'm not a fan of the 'only kidding' either, it's bullshit when people do that.

(I put my quote back in above just to be clearer what I was saying, I know you replied to the 'if you aren't trolling' part but I just wanted to be clear what I originally said :)

There's clearly a troll in this thread (or trrroll, which is the most I'm prepared to acknowledge them), but they aren't arguing for their views, they're just posting nasty shit at random... That doesn't mean it's alright or gets excused in the least, but at least they are (hopefully) saying something vile that they know is unacceptable and wrong to get a reaction rather than actually believing it, which is another level of scary.

You misunderstand. I'm not saying I hate all games. There are plenty of games I like. I'm saying that I can't find the kind of games that I REALLY want. I don't think they exist.

Don't you love it when we pleasantly surprise you? Doesn't it restore a little of your faith in humanity?