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400,000 sales < the pc community stood up and embraced there PC exclusive game..just for it to crush in our faces and turn into greed..

Witcher 2 is the last true game in the series..

RIP.
Buddy please ease off the caffeine. You'll give yourself a heart attack. Too much drama 4 years too early. These games are labours of love. So what if they want to earn a few extra bucks. That would just speed up the dev cycle. In short stop talking out of your ass.
If you only read the interview with the producer of XboX version you would know that they are not going to let down the PC userbase. If you are some kind of PC elitist you should still feel that way, as you were able to play this great game many months before Xbox gamers can lay their hands on it.

If CDPR wants to grow and give us more awesome games they have to enter new areas and new markets. And I am not worried about them selling themselves out to someone big, in fact CDP Red has an investor, Optimus S.A., which provided some solid financing for CDPR. They are a public company and their stocks are doing pretty well.

So just calm down and show some real support for the company, instead of taking your toys away in the very first moment that they look into someone else's sandbox.
Post edited June 03, 2011 by gregski
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thekingcasper: Witcher 2 is the last true game in the series..

RIP.
drama queen
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fk u 2 nut swingers ^.. not u gregski...

if any of u paid attention to the interview he actually said " The entire team is now working on the xbox version "... the entire team..meaning no one is on the PC version while the xbox version is being done..

reread it..
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thekingcasper: fk u 2 nut swingers ^.. not u gregski...

if any of u paid attention to the interview he actually said " The entire team is now working on the xbox version "... the entire team..meaning no one is on the PC version while the xbox version is being done..

reread it..
Cursing and insults, great way to move people's opinions. Good job.

Back on topic, yes they are working on the console port. Of course they are working on the console port. PC game is out and it's first major patch is released. Are they supposed to sit on their hands waiting for more bugs to appear? Or maybe they are moving their team to get as polished a port to the 360 as possible.

Looks like you won't be happy unless every PC user has their own personal bug fixer and content artist from CDPRED.

BTW WTF is a nut swinger?


Good lord I thought I had a years supply of troll bait. Time to stock up again.
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jklinders: Are they supposed to sit on their hands waiting for more bugs to appear?
In all fairness they hardly have to sit around and wait for them... there is a shit load of issues they should be fixing if they are as concerned about their PC community as they have been saying they were for the past 3 years.
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jklinders: Are they supposed to sit on their hands waiting for more bugs to appear?
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CaptainKremin: In all fairness they hardly have to sit around and wait for them... there is a shit load of issues they should be fixing if they are as concerned about their PC community as they have been saying they were for the past 3 years.
In all fairness despite what drama king Casper is spewing I doubt the entire team is involved in the port. Whatever the interview he said says. He's been talking nonsense at regular intervals since yesterday and it's making me think he's off his meds or something.
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CaptainKremin: In all fairness they hardly have to sit around and wait for them... there is a shit load of issues they should be fixing if they are as concerned about their PC community as they have been saying they were for the past 3 years.
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jklinders: In all fairness despite what drama king Casper is spewing I doubt the entire team is involved in the port. Whatever the interview he said says. He's been talking nonsense at regular intervals since yesterday and it's making me think he's off his meds or something.
Well first off, people only get bent out of shape about things they actually care about, so maybe he's just a passionate kind of guy.

Secondly, PC'er have a history of getting the shaft so I wouldn't say that his point of view is entirely unreasonable.

Third, to downcry his insults then insinuate some type of mental disorder doesn't win you any points.

But most importantly, The 'entire team' thing... neither of us knows for certain either way.. but one CAN categorically state that it wouldn't be the first time a PC version had been left on the back burner in order to prioritse the more lucrative console release.. and if you factor in the sad state of the 'streamlined' design then CDP aren't particularly alaying any fears that may lie with the PC hardliners.

On a personal note.. I, myself, am rather disappointed how this release has turned out and by the showing CDP have given themselves... their sentiments over the past few years, in my mind, haven't actually attained their lofty goals, and it has dented their reputation amongst a subset of their previously very vocal supporters.
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jklinders: In all fairness despite what drama king Casper is spewing I doubt the entire team is involved in the port. Whatever the interview he said says. He's been talking nonsense at regular intervals since yesterday and it's making me think he's off his meds or something.
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CaptainKremin: Well first off, people only get bent out of shape about things they actually care about, so maybe he's just a passionate kind of guy.

Secondly, PC'er have a history of getting the shaft so I wouldn't say that his point of view is entirely unreasonable.

Third, to downcry his insults then insinuate some type of mental disorder doesn't win you any points.

But most importantly, The 'entire team' thing... neither of us knows for certain either way.. but one CAN categorically state that it wouldn't be the first time a PC version had been left on the back burner in order to prioritse the more lucrative console release.. and if you factor in the sad state of the 'streamlined' design then CDP aren't particularly alaying any fears that may lie with the PC hardliners.

On a personal note.. I, myself, am rather disappointed how this release has turned out and by the showing CDP have given themselves... their sentiments over the past few years, in my mind, haven't actually attained their lofty goals, and it has dented their reputation amongst a subset of their previously very vocal supporters.
Your right, stooping to his level was not right.

Getting bent out of shape about something you care about is one thing but letting one little thing like spreading to consoles give you a complete 180 turn on your attitude...well if it's not mental what is it? Cripes last I checked it was a game not life or death. You'd think CDPRED was raping his grandma the way he goes on.

For like the bazillianth time I am a PC exclusive gamer. he has some validity to his concerns but is overreacting way too much way too early. Before yesterday PC gamers were calling this game the second coming of Christ now it's the anti-Christ apparently. I've seen many ports, some good some bad some ugly. This is not one because PC got it first. With only the UI and aspect ratio sacrificed. Way better than being held back by 6 year old tech don't you think?

Free DLC for all users, getting the game first and a successful release guaranteeing a chance for us to see who is right with TW 3. Well at least I'll check it out because I don't believe in punishing people for what they MIGHT do instead of what they have actually done.

Now if we all go into a hissy fit and boycott them then CDPRED will expand their base by making DA 2 the Vizima files. Now that would be truly sad.
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PC is always being shrugged off by everyone..and its the people that sit on the fence that allows this shit to keep happening..if people wasnt all passive and pussy they would voice there fears and oppinions..instead of hating for those who only want whats best for the PC..

your the troll my friend..all im saying is I HOPE it doesnt happen but history tells us the chances are high.. i didnt create this history..so why hate on me for seeing actual evidence and using it to defend my story ??.. im not making it up..

and if there is people working on the PC version still than why in the interview did he say that the entire team was on the xbox version atm ?? i didnt say that..they did..

stop hating on people who can read interviews.
I'm an exclusive PC Gamer (with an exception made for Rock Band/Guitar Hero on the 360), and I'm not impressed with the UI... but the game is still amazing. The only thing that bugged me was a lack of inverted mouse, and hell... if that's the worst thing then I guess I'm doing pretty well. :)

OP - if it makes you feel better, consider this: Maybe CDP are just going to dump something on the consolers, take all their money, and funnel it into TW3 on PC to make it an even more awesome game. (I know, CDP won't do that, but hey... if it helps him sleep better... :) )

That said, I have heard that there is very little that actually needs to be done to port PC<->XBOX (relative to creating a whole new game, that is). If that's the case, then they won't likely need to expend much energy in creating the console version (especially given that they seem to have designed the PC version with that in mind the whole way along).
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im sure itll be easier for them to port it over but it wont be a instantly easy process..but itll take them a few hardcore months to get it ready..so its a big task..

they dont need extra money for TW3 .. look what they did for TW2 with the sales off TW1..and TW2 has already shit all over the sales of TW1..so yea..thanks for trying but still not buying it :P
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thekingcasper: im sure itll be easier for them to port it over but it wont be a instantly easy process..but itll take them a few hardcore months to get it ready..so its a big task..

they dont need extra money for TW3 .. look what they did for TW2 with the sales off TW1..and TW2 has already shit all over the sales of TW1..so yea..thanks for trying but still not buying it :P
The extra money from the port could be the difference between a 4 year dev time and a 2 year dev time.

Anyway I've fed you enough. i tried reasoning with you last night but there is no point. The last word that you crave so much is yours.
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CaptainKremin: Well first off, people only get bent out of shape about things they actually care about, so maybe he's just a passionate kind of guy.

Secondly, PC'er have a history of getting the shaft so I wouldn't say that his point of view is entirely unreasonable.

Third, to downcry his insults then insinuate some type of mental disorder doesn't win you any points.

But most importantly, The 'entire team' thing... neither of us knows for certain either way.. but one CAN categorically state that it wouldn't be the first time a PC version had been left on the back burner in order to prioritse the more lucrative console release.. and if you factor in the sad state of the 'streamlined' design then CDP aren't particularly alaying any fears that may lie with the PC hardliners.

On a personal note.. I, myself, am rather disappointed how this release has turned out and by the showing CDP have given themselves... their sentiments over the past few years, in my mind, haven't actually attained their lofty goals, and it has dented their reputation amongst a subset of their previously very vocal supporters.
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jklinders: Your right, stooping to his level was not right.

Getting bent out of shape about something you care about is one thing but letting one little thing like spreading to consoles give you a complete 180 turn on your attitude...well if it's not mental what is it? Cripes last I checked it was a game not life or death. You'd think CDPRED was raping his grandma the way he goes on.

For like the bazillianth time I am a PC exclusive gamer. he has some validity to his concerns but is overreacting way too much way too early. Before yesterday PC gamers were calling this game the second coming of Christ now it's the anti-Christ apparently. I've seen many ports, some good some bad some ugly. This is not one because PC got it first. With only the UI and aspect ratio sacrificed. Way better than being held back by 6 year old tech don't you think?

Free DLC for all users, getting the game first and a successful release guaranteeing a chance for us to see who is right with TW 3. Well at least I'll check it out because I don't believe in punishing people for what they MIGHT do instead of what they have actually done.

Now if we all go into a hissy fit and boycott them then CDPRED will expand their base by making DA 2 the Vizima files. Now that would be truly sad.
This is where our respective opinions seem to differ wildly.

You, on one side, seem happy to sacrifice an approriate control scheme and aspect ratio (amongst a list of other things) for graphical fidelity. That's an anathema to me and to a lot of others... a PC product should fully and absolutely support the medium for which it is made, and speaking for myself graphics are a FAR way down the list when compared to gameplay and a level of accessability I would expect from such a flexible medium as a PC.. these issues aren't just broken, to be fixed at a later stage, they were conscious design choices entirely contrary to everything those who had an interest were told they would be... this is a let down and a lot of people feel as if CDP have gone back on their word, these are reasonable issues for a lot of people to get pissy at.

Also you seem to be willing to further give CDP a free pass, by virtue of the fact that we've got some free stuff, others too may be a little more reasonable about this aspect .... if it wasn't for the fact that it as well, is going straight into the Xbox release... and as there are still issues to be fixed, the sentiment exists that further to the design compromises, we are also testing these 'thank you bonuses' for a more polished later Xbox release....suddenly relegated from the primary audience to the beta testers is a hard pill to swallow, things aren't looking very bright for those who have kept the faith for 3 years... a 3 years in which, I must add, the faithful (for want of a better phrase.. rabid, being another) have enabled CDP's reputation... This has to be repeated for emphasis.. CDP wouldn't be where they are atm, regardless of their developing skills, if it wasn't for the support of the PC hardliners given, in light of the support they felt they were getting from CDP... another let down, reasonable or not, that's the situation.

So given the way a lot of people see things, myself included to a certain degree, how much faith do you think is held for any future developments by CDP, to be suited to the gaming style they wish, considering that historically (hysterically) once certain compromises are made in design they are never backtracked upon (I can't think of any games that have changed design, back, to a more complex situation when an audience has been made for a lesser complex one)..... again dejection and very little hope for pleasant future tidings.. ok these are strong words I'm using, however we are reaching the point in gaming evolution where arguements are being made for the classification of gaming to fall under 'lifestyle'... and this being the case it is pefectly understandable that people, some certainly, and more extremely, than others, invest strongly in this pastime and even more so, their preferred method of executing that pastime, and therefore disappointment weighs more heavily upon them.

We come to the final points you make.. success equating to revenue to be spent on expanding the franchise and the possible detriment in people making their very vocal opinions felt. Well given the circumstances that I've already laid out, the loyal, vocal follower's of CDP have already contributed to their success in terms of both word of mouth and expenditure and this is what they have received in return, regardless of how unreasonable some may see matters... this isn't the product they wanted or.... and this is VERY important... what they were led to believe they would get given CDP's long proclamations of PC-centric design... it would be unreasonable for someone speaking in all honesty to deny that this game, as designed, is more suited to the console stable of design ethos, in fact the only thing even remotely more suited to the PC is that it is more graphically intensive, and as already stated this is a lesser concern... So in the end CDP have become popular with a different audience with a different product despite a lot of the information, and I dare say intentions, CDP have released.

At this point hissy fits aren't going to do them any harm, playing nice and supportive didn't get them anywhere and as far as risking further design compromises are concerned, there's not a lot else that can go wrong.

TL;DR Over a 3 year period CDP led their community to believe that they understood the compelxities of the issues of PC gaming and that they were dedicated to fully catering to those issues.... and in the end CDP delivered shinies and a list of priorities more suited to a different market..... People are pissed and the blame lies at the feet of CDP themselves. Some of these issues may eventually be addressed, but alot of people will still be reaching for the vaseline.
Post edited June 04, 2011 by CaptainKremin