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Hi

well today I Finished my fifth eding -- and no im not competing for the 16 times ending -- and in all of them when geralt wants to open the gate there is a lady bug.

I wanted to know what it means ? I have a feeling is related to Yenefer somehow. maybe a deep meaning of the name or related to that.

From my investigations The lady bird is sign of Polymorphism, I have no idea why. but if anyone here can satisfy my thirst for the concept and lore, he will get as +1s as I can give.
Taken from here:

"Asian traditions hold to the belief that if caught and then released, the Ladybug will faithfully fly to your true love and whisper your name in his/her ear. Upon hearing the Ladybug’s message your true love will hurry his/her way to your side."
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227: Taken from here:

"Asian traditions hold to the belief that if caught and then released, the Ladybug will faithfully fly to your true love and whisper your name in his/her ear. Upon hearing the Ladybug’s message your true love will hurry his/her way to your side."
DAMN, I want Witcher 3 NOW. When the game finished it answered some questions but then created 50 more mysteries that has me babbled.

I cant wait to see Yen model, a long black hair, if she is anything like the book describes and the concept art show, then im in LOVE. I know she is not beautiful but she must have something that geralt went for her, right ?!
Post edited June 15, 2011 by Mv.c9
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Mv.c9: I know she is not beautiful but she must have something that geralt went for her, right ?!
She's actually supposedly famous for her beauty. Like many sorceresses, she was born ugly (a hunchback, in fact), but used magic to become beautiful.

The Witcher Wiki is my friend :)
There's a rhyme in local lore, that's sort of like "wherever you may fly, there will be my home". There's also a version with "there will I be married". So yes, it's more or less related to Yen. I think this makes more sense than the Asian interpretation, since Yen can't come to Geralt, Geralt goes to Yen.
Post edited June 15, 2011 by unacomn
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Mv.c9: I know she is not beautiful but she must have something that geralt went for her, right ?!
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227: She's actually supposedly famous for her beauty. Like many sorceresses, she was born ugly (a hunchback, in fact), but used magic to become beautiful.

The Witcher Wiki is my friend :)
From Wiki:
"Yennefer was famous for her beauty, even though during the events of The Swallow's Tower she was 94 years old. She always dressed in black and white clothing. She used lilac and gooseberry perfumes. She had violet eyes and raven black hair."

This is drool worthy.

Btw does this mean Triss is older than Yen ?

"She was the youngest member of the Council of Sorcerers and later the Lodge of Sorceresses."

Cause I really want to sack Triss, and just waiting for a reason.
I never thought the ladybug was supposed to have some deep relation to Yen (I kind of doubt the reference to Asian traditions), although I particularly liked that scene. Most of the connections that people are making to her are pretty shaky, and if you want to go down that route you can interpret it to mean anything.

To me, the moment is simply Geralt sparing an innocent creature and letting it fly way (which may have more meaning depending on if you killed the dragon or not). After so much killing, I think he liked seeing something that could just fly away from it all.
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Adokat: I never thought the ladybug was supposed to have some deep relation to Yen (I kind of doubt the reference to Asian traditions), although I particularly liked that scene. Most of the connections that people are making to her are pretty shaky, and if you want to go down that route you can interpret it to mean anything.

To me, the moment is simply Geralt sparing an innocent creature and letting it fly way (which may have more meaning depending on if you killed the dragon or not). After so much killing, I think he liked seeing something that could just fly away from it all.
oh, come on, this is the witcher, everything means something, the developers dont waste time to creat a lady bug and detail it that up close so that it would mean just nothing . . . Lady Bug does have the lovers meaning, but every country interpret it in a way. some say takes you to the lover, others say takes the lover to you . . . and etc . . .

right ? lets make this beautiful, and deep. this is a beautiful game, not just kill people and have sex, right ? the story is a master piece and I personally refuse the idea that the lady bug was there just for a shallow meaning. These things are not easy to make. A scene like that was thought up, planed through, conceptualized. this is not a movie that as long as you have a camera you have a scene. everything has to be perfect, specially cutscenes.

even the circle in Siles chest meant something, as it glowed when she called the dragon. so you see . . . nothing is just like that.

right ? please say you agree (^_^)
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227: Taken from here:

"Asian traditions hold to the belief that if caught and then released, the Ladybug will faithfully fly to your true love and whisper your name in his/her ear. Upon hearing the Ladybug’s message your true love will hurry his/her way to your side."
yelp, that is true, comfirmed by an Asian
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Adokat: I never thought the ladybug was supposed to have some deep relation to Yen (I kind of doubt the reference to Asian traditions), although I particularly liked that scene. Most of the connections that people are making to her are pretty shaky, and if you want to go down that route you can interpret it to mean anything.

To me, the moment is simply Geralt sparing an innocent creature and letting it fly way (which may have more meaning depending on if you killed the dragon or not). After so much killing, I think he liked seeing something that could just fly away from it all.
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Mv.c9: oh, come on, this is the witcher, everything means something, the developers dont waste time to creat a lady bug and detail it that up close so that it would mean just nothing . . . Lady Bug does have the lovers meaning, but every country interpret it in a way. some say takes you to the lover, others say takes the lover to you . . . and etc . . .

right ? lets make this beautiful, and deep. this is a beautiful game, not just kill people and have sex, right ? the story is a master piece and I personally refuse the idea that the lady bug was there just for a shallow meaning. These things are not easy to make. A scene like that was thought up, planed through, conceptualized. this is not a movie that as long as you have a camera you have a scene. everything has to be perfect, specially cutscenes.

even the circle in Siles chest meant something, as it glowed when she called the dragon. so you see . . . nothing is just like that.

right ? please say you agree (^_^)
I don't agree. And you didn't read anything I wrote, or at least, you interpreted what I wrote to mean what you wanted, which is kind of my point.

This game isn't supposed to be like the Da Vinci code or Lost-not everything has to be some deep hidden reference. In fact, I think that searching for all that deeper stuff sometimes ignores the simple beauty of the scene, which is more powerful in my opinion. I just appreciate it for what it is, not what-through some deep interpretations- it could be.

Oh, and where did I say it meant nothing? It was one of my favorite moments from the ending.

Really, what you're positing is certainly one possible interpretation, but can you see why I say it's shaky? I mean, I can interpret it to mean anything I want. Maybe it was supposed to reference Geralt's feelings for Triss, or even Ciri. All are just as plausible, but none are any more supported.

Now, if that ladybug had been sitting atop a lilac, then I'd be inclined to agree with you.
Ladybug is associated with good fortune where i'm from. usually it is believed, it will bring good fortune on someone on whom it lands. also, when you chant a small verse, and make a wish, if it flies away, it is believed your wish will be granted.

btw, the tatoo on Sile's chest glowing is just a graphical bug...:)
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eCos: Ladybug is associated with good fortune where i'm from. usually it is believed, it will bring good fortune on someone on whom it lands. also, when you chant a small verse, and make a wish, if it flies away, it is believed your wish will be granted.

btw, the tatoo on Sile's chest glowing is just a graphical bug...:)
The same here. Would be nice to know what is associated to it in Poland :D
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Adokat: Maybe it was supposed to reference Geralt's feelings for Triss, or even Ciri. All are just as plausible, but none are any more supported.
I'd agree with that if not for the fact that it occurs right after Letho tells you all about what happened to Yennefer. Besides that, Triss is nearby and Ciri was barely mentioned in the story.

It's not the strongest connection, but that was definitely the explanation that I enjoyed the most. More than likely the devs chose something intentionally vague with a number of different possible interpretations and added it in to get people talking :)

I do like your explanation, but there's something about the prominence of that scene that suggests a deeper meaning to people like me than just "something innocent in a world of sin." Maybe that's all it is, but the depth of field in the part where it's just Geralt's eyes watching the ladybug begin to take flight seemed really suggestive of something... else.
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Adokat: Maybe it was supposed to reference Geralt's feelings for Triss, or even Ciri. All are just as plausible, but none are any more supported.
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227: I'd agree with that if not for the fact that it occurs right after Letho tells you all about what happened to Yennefer. Besides that, Triss is nearby and Ciri was barely mentioned in the story.

It's not the strongest connection, but that was definitely the explanation that I enjoyed the most. More than likely the devs chose something intentionally vague with a number of different possible interpretations and added it in to get people talking :)

I do like your explanation, but there's something about the prominence of that scene that suggests a deeper meaning to people like me than just "something innocent in a world of sin." Maybe that's all it is, but the depth of field in the part where it's just Geralt's eyes watching the ladybug begin to take flight seemed really suggestive of something... else.
Fair enough. I suppose it's more than reasonable that Geralt could be thinking of Yennefer. Given the vagueness of the scene, we can interpret it many ways. I wasn't trying to say that couldn't be the case. My own interpretation of the ladybug just flows in general with how I felt about the ending.

I was mostly objecting to what the OP was looking for-some specific secret meaning that a ladybug has in relationship to Yen, as though it had something to do with her name or Polymorphism or something like that. None of that I particularly buy. That is, it's intentionally vague, and the the developers aren't winking at us and saying 'it's actually about Yen, because a ladybug really means this.'

As far as I know, we have no information to go on there. Of course, I've only read what's been written in English, so it's entirely possible that a ladybug does have some concrete relationship that I don't know about.
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Adokat: Maybe it was supposed to reference Geralt's feelings for Triss, or even Ciri. All are just as plausible, but none are any more supported.
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227: I'd agree with that if not for the fact that it occurs right after Letho tells you all about what happened to Yennefer. Besides that, Triss is nearby and Ciri was barely mentioned in the story.

It's not the strongest connection, but that was definitely the explanation that I enjoyed the most. More than likely the devs chose something intentionally vague with a number of different possible interpretations and added it in to get people talking :)

I do like your explanation, but there's something about the prominence of that scene that suggests a deeper meaning to people like me than just "something innocent in a world of sin." Maybe that's all it is, but the depth of field in the part where it's just Geralt's eyes watching the ladybug begin to take flight seemed really suggestive of something... else.
Maybe that was the point all along, to give everyone their own interpretation, I did read what Adokat said, and I agree on it Partially.

It could be anything, but like you (227) I also look for something really related to the story, in the WHOLE witcher story killing was never even once mentioned to be a bad thing, geralt never felt shame for what he did, all the choices he made or you made for him, he was happy with it, happy about slaughtering the nilfgardians, killing the kedwenis, never said "oh why I killed, then I should stop killing" it was never something that was considered now we need to stop.

Witcher is there to kill monsters, but as he mentioned in "The Witcher 1" -- while talking to abigail for the first time and when she said about the swords (steel for human and silver for monster) -- geralt responds they are both for slaying monsters, one the real monsters and one for killing monsters humans have become.

Maybe i also misinterpreted Adokat's saying again, but I hope i didnt. but what i meant is that "something innocent in a wold of sin" is a bit unlikely but not impossible.

EDIT: ADOKAT I just saw your post (it was posted before i made this post so i didnt see) and I agree with you -- almost entirely.
Post edited June 15, 2011 by Mv.c9