scrubking: Management rushed the game out to coincide with ps5 and xone launches,and the stupid decision to make the game compatible with old gen consoles really limited their resources.

Anakin-Skywalker: A lot of people are complaining about bugs and crashes, so far I haven't experienced anything major - sometimes a cigarret is floating around or someone tries to intimidate me with a powerful T pose, however there are a lot of other things that have changed from the initial promise.

From the 2018 trailer and subsequent trailers we were promised a deeper RPG than the Witcher 3, the character selection pannel seemed a lot more complex and better and the citty was supposed to be 'alive'. Instead the game feels a lot more linear than The Witcher 3, choices don't seem to matter all that much and I don't feel any substancial improvement from the points I gain.

Don't get me wrong, I am loving my experience so far, I love the world, the tech, the story, all of it. But it just doesn't feel like the same game that we have been promised.

Let me know what you think happened

RoboPond: I own it on Steam, and have only played it bit but its not grabbed me like TW3 did, it feels like a reskin of the newer Deus Ex games which I wasn't a fan of.

If it keeps just being a reskin then if your thinking about it hold off.

lcsodep70: I really enjoyed the Withcer series. 3 being the more polished. But not without it's faults.Main story with Cersi wasn't all that interesting to me. The Witcher contracts were far more interesting. Plus the combat was basically button mashing. Stay within your level and the game wasn't difficult at all.

My point is. Witcher 3 is heralded as some master piece, and it isn't. No game is. I'm quite sure I'll enjoy CyberPunk when I finally do play it. Unfortunately, day 1 patches and far beyond are the norm and I'll just wait until CD get's it right.Just like they did with the Witcher 3.

Myajha: Honestly, this may be a bit of a conspiracy theory here, but I think the Google and to a degree Microsoft and Sony happened.

See everything we saw, would have worked fine on a PC game, that was the original plan. X-box would have worked too, since the generally use the same windows frame, so with a few tweaks would have worked great.

Then suddenly the announce that it'll be on Stadia and different consoles. My guess Google tossed them a ton of up front money in order to port it to the Stadia, and CDPR saw the writing on the wall and realized that Microsoft and Sony would pay a ton of money for ports as well. So they approached them, and both said sure... if you have it ready for a next-gen launch as well.

Which CDPR saw no problem with, since they were planning on launching 6 to 8 months before the next-gen launch. They could get it out on old-gen games, and work on new gen games.

Except it didn't work that way. Stadia may be easy to program and such, but not when you already have the code written and solidified for PC. So they had to work the code for 9 different platforms, all at the same time, with limited resource. They got over their heads, and couldn't dig their way out.

Then they realized that certain things that would work on the PC, wouldn't work on the consoles how they wanted them too, so they had to drop them, and once you start dropping things, it becomes a domino effect since in a game like this, one thing connects directly to another. Add that to things that just never worked right, even on the PC (wall running for example). They probably could have fixed it, if they had the resources, but all those resources were diverted to the console and their ports.

So basically here you have a game that was written, programmed and designed for the PC, that suddenly had resources sucked away from it, because CDPR got too overly ambitious and greedy.

Swedrami: Most of the complaints and problems I think can be safely atttributed to people trying to run the game even though their machines either barely or not at all meet the requirements. And yet they somehow expect the game to run flawlessly and at the best fidelity possible.
Also there are a thousand and one other little things that can prevent the game even from starting, despite having a machine that should run it with all bells and whistles. In my case, for example I have to leave raytracing off (even though the 2080Ti in my machine should be more than capable to have it enabled) because, for reasons unknown, the game wouldn't even start if I had raytracing on.

Doesn't even need to be raytracing or DLSS that's the culprit. Can be the antivirus, an overclocking tool, other applications running in the background or something completely and unexpectedly left-field, only specific to your particular setup that causes issues.

The latest, optimized for Cyberpunk 2077 NVidia driver for example, made it just worse for a couple people I spoke with and they could solve the problem by downgrading to the previous one again.

In regards to the console versions CDPR should have just postponed the releases for the previous generation into next year. It was expected that something as complex as Cyberpunk 2077 wouldn't run as stable on the boxes, no surprise here.

Only had a few small graphical glitches and zero game-crashing ones, so no complaints from me here.
It looks phenomenal on 2K, and raytracing from what I've seen on other setups similar to mine doesn't make that much of a difference.

In regards to the RPG aspects it's on par with the Witcher 3, but giving you WAY more opportunities and freedom to approach a problem from all kinds of angles. I'm playing a stealthy netrunner build and I'm having an absolute blast hacking into ALL the things and dispose of the opposing forces by either non-violently bitch-choking them and hiding their bodies or turn them on to themselves (each other as well as literally on themselves, courtesy of the suicide protocol).
I've yet to see how much of an impact completing certain side gigs has on the main objective, so I can't really comment on that yet. Although I expect Bloody Baron-level of branching into different outcomes and resolutions as a result of our previously made choices. Choices, you wouldn't think would have an effect on another (only loosely) related thing, but then, "Surprise, motherfucker", slaps you around the head with the consequences.

Can't agree to the city feeling less alive. Crowd density has been dialed back a bit, no denying about that, but it still feels very much "alive", at least for me.
The market from the 2018 48min gameplay demo (the one that's crossed after calling Meredith Stout, on the way to Viktor Vector) for instance, is still bustling and positively teeming with NPCs, up to the point where you can't avoid bumping into a few at times. So no complaints here, either.

In conclusion - yes, not the exact game that was announced and promised, but definitely one that comes VERY close to it. And still can be improved to get even closer to that near-perfect state.
If CDPR takes the criticism (of course NOT all of it, just the sensible and reasonable) and suggestions (more HUD customizability, being able to rebind ALL keys, options/toggles instead of removing/toning down [like the original braindance flashing/strobing effect], "actual" (not just in the inventory) full frontal nudity for V, etc) to heart.

megajellyfish: - Let Players reset their skills -> I fkcd up my whole character since I didnt know what to do and now I cannot fix it....

midrand: There is a device that lets you reset your perks in the game. Costs quite a lot though.

megajellyfish: Too many Platforms and too ambitious.
They should have canceled last gen. I think many ressources went into making that stuff even playable if you can call it that.

And then they announced a realease date they couldnt possibly deliver on. BUT if they delay it -> customers/fans get angry and shareholders too.
They release it like this -> same problem
But they lost their reputation.

That being said, I dont know where people got the idea from that CDPR is that godlike dev who makes openworlds and animtions lin Rockstar/Naughty Dog-Fashion. You guys ever seen the release of witcher 1-3?
True it is not that kind of a mess, but still.

There's much work to do.

- Improve Performance
- Fixing Bugs and Glitches
- Fixing NPC AI
- Fixing NPC in Car AI
- Tweak the Car physics. The cars are way to bouncy and riding a bike feels like driving a car....???
- Improving Animations. -> No animatiion while story NPCs are driving a car without moving their arms and just the wheel sligthly moving. Not opening and closing car doors as well as the animation to get into the car (even though the animation is in the game in a proper way -> seen in the quest with that Police officer and the mayor candidate stuff)
- Transmog clothing
- Let Players reset their skills -> I fkcd up my whole character since I didnt know what to do and now I cannot fix it....