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Have you ever had a preconceived notion of a culture but when you visited the culture, it was completely different than what you had learned about it or assumed?

I'd love to hear about your experiences.

I got the idea from an article I read a while ago written by a European complaining about America (I'm American) and without noticing the contradiction, said at one point that fat Americans have massive soda drinks (like Coca-Cola) and then she later complains that she bought a drink and it was so full of ice there was hardly any beverage in it at all.

We just like them cold is all. Same stomach sizes, roughly. (Though there are crazy exceptions) All of my friends I've had from other countries were surprised by how polite Americans are, how not violent and racist everyone is, and how they can make friends relatively easy (I recall one roommate from Lebanon suspecting he couldn't make friends because people would view him as an enemy).

From my own experiences, I visited a very primitive Mayan culture twice. The first time I was shocked to see the conditions people lived in, but even more shocked that they existed at all. As a child, I was taught that the Mayan people were long gone. They're not. Still there. Still speak Mayan. We brought a Spanish translator with our team (we were building houses and providing healthcare villages near Chichen Itza under the work of one of the bigger villages' hospital) and had to hire another translator for Mayan to Spanish translation because almost nobody spoke Spanish.

The second time I went, I learned that many people were there by choice. Almost like the Amish in America. Though not quite. Some weren't educated enough to get out, but those that were often just loved their community and chose to stay. The man I was speaking to said he left, took up some jobs and got an apartment. He said it was worth it for Wi-Fi.

My last story is all in America. I was raised with the understanding that Southerners were racist, stupid, and mostly useless. Then I moved to the South and learned what most people learn when they hold prejudices. People are people. There were some dumb racists, but I'd venture to say there were more where I came from and not where I was going. I met plenty of intelligent, kind people in the South. I found I liked their company more than the North and stayed down here.

So what about you? Have you visited another culture or country and been surprised by what you learned?
I was quite surprised how many thai appear to be quite multilingual, at least in some parts of the country. E.g. I met someone living in the rural area who hadn't finished even even the local primary school, yet could (apparently) speak fluently(?) and understand khmer, thai and lao. Oh and quite understandable English too, That's already four languages, for someone who hasn't been to school much.

And here we tend to think we are hot shit because many of us can understand or speak like three languages, Finnish, Swedish and English.
Post edited September 17, 2019 by timppu
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I visited Saigon and was surprised to find that there are more pretty Vietnamese women in Houston than over there. Been wondering why ever since.
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Tallima: So what about you? Have you visited another culture or country and been surprised by what you learned?
No. I've only been to Europe couple of times and I haven't any preconceptions about European culture.

However, I was surprised to learn from you that modern Mayans speak Mayan language. I've watched the documentary about how historians had trouble to decipher what's written in Mayan pyramids. Maybe it's only written Mayan is forgotten and oral is still intact?

Or maybe it's just all US media is a bunch of BS (case in point - perpetuated narrative that Americans/Southerners/white men are violent racists).
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Gerin: I visited Saigon and was surprised to find that there are more pretty Vietnamese women in Houston than over there. Been wondering why ever since.
I've read an article that said why. Many years ago. I think today such article wouldn't be allowed.
Post edited September 17, 2019 by LootHunter
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Two hours Tallima.

That's 1 hour and 59 minutes longer than I thought this would last before it turned to shit. :P
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LootHunter: However, I was surprised to learn from you that modern Mayans speak Mayan language. I've watched the documentary about how historians had trouble to decipher what's written in Mayan pyramids. Maybe it's only written Mayan is forgotten and oral is still intact?
I met some who could read it, but I'd imagine that the written language was lost and then relearned. But maybe not. Maybe nobody bothered to ask. They were persecuted and hunted a lot.
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Tallima: Maybe nobody bothered to ask. They were persecuted and hunted a lot.
That's not what documentary said. People DID ask for someone who would understand the writings, but only found one or two elders who were able to provide some information, but still incomplete. Of course, the main reason was Catolic Church that pushed Mayans to become Christians and thus many had forgotten their heritage. Though I think "persecuted and hunted" is a bit of exaggeration.
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sasuke12: ...
Liar.
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LootHunter: European culture.
Umm...
Post edited September 18, 2019 by toxicTom
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I went to Beijing.

Kind of weird. For some reason they built the airport right in the middle of Chinatown.
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tinyE: I went to Beijing.

Kind of weird. For some reason they built the airport right in the middle of Chinatown.
You slay me.
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sasuke12: I went to France in 2011 with a team of 40 people on behalf of a charity organization to help the poor and needy.

I was expecting lots of poor, malnourished, skinny white people.

I saw hundreds of thousands of well fed Muslims with massive families living on generous welfare and enjoying lives. White people have become a minority in France now. Plus I didn't get to experience any authentic French culture, cuisine or customs. Mostly people spoke Arabic or Urdu there.
from the 'pedia:

As of 2004, French conservative think-tank Institut Montaigne estimated that there were 60 million (85%) white people of European origin, 6 million (10%) North African people, 2 million (3.5%) Black people and 1 million (1.5%) people of Asian origin in Metropolitan France, including all generations of immigrant descendants.[40]

In 2015, Michèle Tribalat released a paper estimating population of ethnic minorities in France in 2011 to constitute 30% if ancestry retracted to 3 generations but with age limit of 60. 15% were of other European origin and another 15% rest.[41]


Looks like it is growing a lot.

Let's all keep it civil, if you don't mind.
Post edited September 18, 2019 by Tallima
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sasuke12: ...
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toxicTom: Liar.
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LootHunter: European culture.
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toxicTom: Umm...
Ok, I should've said cultures. First time I was on two-week tour over Europe (Germany, France, Czehia, Lichtenstein, etc). And second time was a tourist trip over Norway, Finland and Sweden.
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sasuke12: I went to France in 2011 with a team of 40 people on behalf of a charity organization to help the poor and needy.

I was expecting lots of poor, malnourished, skinny white people.

I saw hundreds of thousands of well fed Muslims with massive families living on generous welfare and enjoying lives. White people have become a minority in France now. Plus I didn't get to experience any authentic French culture, cuisine or customs. Mostly people spoke Arabic or Urdu there.
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xa_chan: Yeah yeah yeah. Too bad I'm french
Then why your forum profile says "Japan"?
Post edited September 18, 2019 by LootHunter
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Tallima: We just like them cold is all.
We do too. But I have to agree with whoever said that. 3/4 of a glass filled with ice is a little bit too much. Watered down soda never tasted good to me. I don't drink too much of it, so I guess I won't complain too much.
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tinyE: I went to Beijing.

Kind of weird. For some reason they built the airport right in the middle of Chinatown.
You had a holiday in Beijing yet you can't afford a cell phone :Shaking head:
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tinyE: I went to Beijing.

Kind of weird. For some reason they built the airport right in the middle of Chinatown.
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fr33kSh0w2012: You had a holiday in Beijing yet you can't afford a cell phone :Shaking head:
He misspelled Buffalo.
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Tallima: We just like them cold is all.
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Cambrey: We do too. But I have to agree with whoever said that. 3/4 of a glass filled with ice is a little bit too much. Watered down soda never tasted good to me. I don't drink too much of it, so I guess I won't complain too much.
I just ask for it without ice. The stuff from the machine is usually cold anyways.
Of course, the portions and sizes in the US were definitely bonkers. I don't know their weird conversions, but 2 litres for 1 person is unnecessary.

I've probably been too exposed to too many cultures to be surprised- I figured a long time ago to not trust stereotypes. You have soft and subtle Americans, rude and braggart Canadians, Indians with zero tech skills, etc.

I guess cool surprises I found were where cultures intersected. Like Vietnam is supposedly overwhelmingly non-religious, but they have their little quirky practices that you'd think would be religious, but aren't: ancestor shrines where they leave beers and cigarettes and stuff for Grandpa's spirit to enjoy.
Even for the Christian Vietnamese :D.