Wow, that was a close call..

There were 3 attorneys/solicitors, onshore, ready to serve you legal papers via carrier pigeon.

So would piracy be ok if I dressed up as a pirate and while the game downloads i cosplay as a pirate the whole time... j/k=)

Last time I went kayaking I considered plundering a speedboat that kept zooming past us. But it was being driven by college students, so the plunder probably wouldn't be worth the effort.

But number of copies is an issue. Otherwise why would say this sale even exist?
"Buy Forge and receive a second free copy"

If number of copies is meaningless what significance is there in getting a second one?

Artificial scarcity.
...and licencing, and copyright, and...

Seriously, read this if you haven't already:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18817_5-reasons-future-will-be-ruled-by-b.s..html

Just pirate it and then but it if your too mad about it.

I don't know why you included me in that 1, i might have been unclear, so to clarifiy: i wasn't implying that you can copy and distribute as you like, but rather that you can copy and use yourself as you see fit (multiple pc's etc)

Speedboats are the worst. A few years ago, I had taken the rowboat out on the lake late at night (around 1AM, I think), and was watching the sun set behind a mansion and surrounded by amazing tranquility, when a loud speedboat sped past me and started going in small circles a few hundred meters away from me. I approve of your plundering plans :)

I wouldn't just print a car, either, I'd print a Ferrari or a Porsche, just to prove it could be done and it could be awesome. There'll be spoilsports who whine and moan about it but we've been passing the line for some time now where people no longer need to justify their existence by the work they do. That was an old culture, that arguably may have needed that to survive, these days those jobs that absolutely need real folks to do can only be done by such a few exceptional people it's the height of ridiculousness to pretend otherwise.

Hell, half the time these days I spend more time putting existing parts of "code" together than making anything truly unique. I wouldn't get paid half as well as I do if it wasn't literally enabling the reduction of 10-100 times the cost of the workforce my efforts are slowly replacing.

So why, why do we let those who are unlucky enough to not be extremely lucky and slightly gifted at the same time suffer?

If I gave everyone enough to eat and drink, someone to screw, a nice place to live, and fun things to do tomorrow, there would still be people who'd make stuff, hell who'd do even hard shit, like medical research, because they can, because it's fun, because they're praised for it.

Every day employers trap employees into poor deals due to praise and admiration among their peers (and false versions of both from corporate). Trust me, it'd happen. And if only 10%, 5%, or even just 1% did it, it would be enough to keep us healthier and generally happier than most of us are today.

I'm done now, I need a drink.

Arrr matey, that's why I love cannons. KABOOM! :P

If we are talking about the deal that was (is?) at GamersGate, you can give/trade 2nd copy. It's not for you, and then again it comes to artificial scarcity. why 2 when you can...
...and I completely agree with this man here.
I wouldn't stop taking photos/fixing computers/doing whatever I enjoy doing if someone gave me choice to. If I didn't have to pay for things I'd do stuff I'm good at at for free.
Honestly I have no idea why everyone doesn't think the same. It would be much better world to live in. Maybe one day....

I'm hoping that WHEN (not if) GOG gets the LucasArts games, this is their announcement title for the Monkey Island series.

"I almost pirated a GOG game...but instead the GOG game pirated me, because it's Monkey Island!"

You're taking me too seriously, mr. master of hyperbole. But I'll play ball. So you're saying that someone who doesn't feel even slightly less great at having acquired an indie title without providing compensation to the author has as much morals as the guy who feels better that he paid for the game?

Ok.

For the record, I pirated a lot of games in my time. For various reasons ranging from the game being impossible to find legally to being a kid with no money who depended on his parents for video games purchases (And they didn't like me playing games. Feels so long ago now.)

It just feels better when you actually paid for it, you know? Or maybe you don't. I don't really care.

I find it an odd stance to take, personally. I have as much loyalty to a retailer than I do to the store I buy my beers from. Surely the gut reaction should have been about taking away from the devs, rather than the distributors? In the olden days of GOG when they put time and effort into getting licenses for old games, making sure they ran etc, there's more of a moral issue, but a game they don't really have to do anything with other than host and sell? Feel remorse for Dennaton Games, not GOG.

Im saying its different places to put your moral weigth, while for instance comparing 2 men with 1 man drawing the line at hitting a child, the other man drawing the line at screaming violently at a child is easy to compare when it comes to "morals" it's not allways that black&white.

I can truely admitt to never having stolen as much as a peanut in a store, but i've propebly downloaded more data then the human mind could comprehend, and i feel no remorse (whilst if i owe a friend a buck without repaying him for a week, i feel a compulsive need to repay it, or potentially repay more as of an interest rate)
Whatever you say, pirating is not hurting any1, don't get me wrong ITS NOT HELPING at all, but its not hurting, if i was to compare piracy to an act in the every-day-life, id compare it to cursing som1 your mad at when your by yourself. No1 will ever know, no harm will ever befell every1, if you dont tell any1 its like it never happened.

By pure logic feeling remorse for such an act is ludacris, but then again our human minds are so easily swayed: media/parenting/logical fallacies are all things that affects your judgement, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse.


And also, if we're talking strictly about "morals" then cause of action must be the defining factor ALLWAYS. Why do you pay for the game? is it becaues your told/trained to do so? is it because it gives you pride/braging rights? Both of the above will not entitle you to ANY moral highground, whilst for instance doing so to support someone you believed worked hard on a project might.
But then again, why use the money for this? why not support a 4walls project for instance? surely that would seem the nobler cause?



PS: i should add the argumentation doesn't neccecarily represent my course of actions, i myself buy games when i feel their worth the money, and i think i have like 4 games tops which i didn't pay for (whereas 2 of them is because their singleplayergames which are steam-locked (and my steam doesnt work ofline))
I say this to prevent non-related flaming :)