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Yeah, I think the rereleases of year-old games are silly, but seriously, just don't buy them. Somebody obviously is or they wouldn't continue doing it. I try not to buy something until I'm going to play it or its just a good deal. Almost bought Dark Souls 2 but thankfully saw the notes about a new version being released. Dodged that bullet! Of course, I'm cheap, so I'll probably be waiting until NEXT Christmas to buy the super-duper deluxe version.

Some games I've upgraded anyway because they offered a decent discount if you had a previous version. I don't get why people get upset about them charging. They want to make money. If they decide to release a new version then they have every right to charge you for it, just as you have every right not to buy it. Its not as though they are making your existing version non-functional and forcing you to buy a new version.
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Navagon: Why do car manufacturers keep producing new versions of their cars? I've got 15 Ford Focuses and the insurance and tax have damn near bankrupted me! If only there was an easy solution to this problem!
Sorry, but this is a totally different thing. You actually USE your car, right? So it degrades during time, and after a while, you need to change it because repair it often and often in the end will cost you more money then buying a new one.

Also improving a vehicle is different, because technology evolves and a tmodernFocus will consume much less instead of a ten years old Focus. No one want to buy a ten years old machine. It's not an "artistic" product with a value despite of its age like a videogame could be. A ten years old Focus is only a worst product.
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marsrunner: Yeah, I think the rereleases of year-old games are silly, but seriously, just don't buy them. Somebody obviously is or they wouldn't continue doing it. I try not to buy something until I'm going to play it or its just a good deal. Almost bought Dark Souls 2 but thankfully saw the notes about a new version being released. Dodged that bullet! Of course, I'm cheap, so I'll probably be waiting until NEXT Christmas to buy the super-duper deluxe version.

Some games I've upgraded anyway because they offered a decent discount if you had a previous version. I don't get why people get upset about them charging. They want to make money. If they decide to release a new version then they have every right to charge you for it, just as you have every right not to buy it. Its not as though they are making your existing version non-functional and forcing you to buy a new version.
If they offer a permanent upgrade, it would be okay. Usually those discounts, anyway, will expire after some days. If the amount of content added is massive, okay. But if the developer only touch something in and there, and then it says "Here is a new version, buy it for 40€" when maybe it only fixed some bugs, changed AI of some enemies, improved framerate in and there....well, it's crappy.
Post edited December 21, 2014 by ThePunishedSnake
This is yet another reason why I don't do console. I buy a game, my machine breaks 5 years later, buy it again if you want to play it again. And since it's HD for the new system, you pay full price again. Somebody please explain to me how is it possible that the PSP can run Resident Evil 2 and the PS4 can't; and when you do I'll cry bullshit anyway.

On PC, even if my machine breaks and get a new one, it will be playable still. Sure, some games don't work too well on newer systems, but typically there's modding, unofficial patches and whatnot to get through that. It's a far cry from a console's outright "NOPE!"
They will keep doing it as long as it nets them more profit and it's SE you're talking about here, they're all in for the money, I'd expect no less from such a company.

I agree, this has to stop, but as long as people keep buying them, then it won't.

I don't mind seeing an HD release of an old game created years ago ala Baldur's Gate EE for example. But such games like Tomb Raider (Published by SE too), gets tons of DLC's and a year later you get Tomb Raider Ultimate Mega Super DLC Chock Full Super Edition.

Some indies aren't much less either, Guacamelee comes to mind.

Ultimately all I can say is, vote with your wallets. In the end that's what makes all the difference.
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snowkatt: we cant complain about christmas just yet

can i complain about the keyboard on my ultrabook ?
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darthspudius: If it like the ones I have used then you can do that all day haha.
its not exactly ass i just dislike how i need to use the fn key for hom pg up and pg down
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darthspudius: If it like the ones I have used then you can do that all day haha.
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snowkatt: its not exactly ass i just dislike how i need to use the fn key for hom pg up and pg down
Oh I can understand why that is annoying. Though admittedly I very rarely use those keys these days.
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Ganni1987: I don't mind seeing an HD release of an old game created years ago ala Baldur's Gate EE for example. But such games like Tomb Raider (Published by SE too), gets tons of DLC's and a year later you get Tomb Raider Ultimate Mega Super DLC Chock Full Super Edition.
which is why i dont buy dlc crap
noty just because i dispise it and feel its content that should be present already

but also because you know that if you have a bit of patience a super duper ultra meg a special edition will come by next year



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snowkatt: its not exactly ass i just dislike how i need to use the fn key for hom pg up and pg down
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darthspudius: Oh I can understand why that is annoying. Though admittedly I very rarely use those keys these days.
i use them a lot with my comic reader to flip from one page to another
Post edited December 21, 2014 by snowkatt
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ThePunishedSnake: Again, what GOG does is different. I mean, I can go out now to buy Last of Us on PS3 with no problem.
Can you do the same thing with Outcast, in example? No. Gog make possible this, since those games are not available anymore, if not from Ebay or similar. And they cost a LOT of money.
Are you really suggesting that I buy a console just to play a specific game? GOG is making hard to find games available. Most of the remakes you mentioned make games available on platforms where they have not been available at all before. That's even better, even though for some reason you keep saying it's worse.
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Ganni1987: I don't mind seeing an HD release of an old game created years ago ala Baldur's Gate EE for example. But such games like Tomb Raider (Published by SE too), gets tons of DLC's and a year later you get Tomb Raider Ultimate Mega Super DLC Chock Full Super Edition.
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snowkatt: which is why i dont buy dlc crap
noty just because i dispise it and feel its content that should be present already

but also because you know that if you have a bit of patience a super duper ultra meg a special edition will come by next year
I hate DLC too, I'd prefer a good old expansion at a higher price full of content and we call it a day. The only DLC's I buy are for games that I know they won't have a lot. Only Witcher 3 makes exception of this :D
Square Enix is way ahead of you. Final Fantasy 7 on the Playstation 4 will contain no new visuals, no updated mechanics, and no new content!

Nintendo also has you covered, as they don't have the manpower or systems for HD remakes in masse! Even remaking Wind Waker was apparently a massive drain!
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ThePunishedSnake:
It can stop.....Until Capcom releases an HD port of Resident Evil Zero and the 2 Outbreaks and the 2 Onimusha games.

And Square Enix Releases an HD Upgrade of Final Fantasy 12 in its International version with the added content.

And Konami manages to release the GameCubes Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes and Silent Hill 4 The Room in HD.

And if Sega relases the first 2 Yakuza game in HD aswell as Shenmeu an HD.

AND HOPE THAT THEY ARE ALL UP TO SNUFF

Seriously though there are some games I want updated in HD especially games I never played before like the Interanational version of FF 12 and Silent Hill 4 and Shenmue.
Post edited December 21, 2014 by Elmofongo
Don't forget the excellent Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter and Sly Raccoon collections. They were some of the best re-releases so far.
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djmiketjg: This has been going on for decades in the music and film industries. Vinyl->8-track->cassette tape->CD->MP3 (talk about up and down). VHS->DVD->Blu-ray->4K.

Nothing like polishing something up and selling it to you again as enhanced. :)

If you don't like it don't buy it - the original isn't going away and you can still play it. There's no reason for commercial outfits not to re-release successful properties to make some more money off them if people will pay for the privilege, though.
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ThePunishedSnake: But it's a different thing. Exclude some movies like Star Wars, were director tune some things in and there, adding scenes etc.

Let's take The Shining, in example. The only thing changing between Bluray and DVD version is the resolution. Of course Bluray has better resolution, but the same is exactly the same.

Different thing is for The Hobbit and The Hobbit Extended. I bought the Extended edition waiting for it, because I know there would be one. In this case there are additional scenes.

I don't talk about commentaries, diaries etc, because those are even in some games. I'm talking about the game/movie in per se. If you insert the first person view in a third person game like GTA, that is a big feature you added.
Not really sure I agree. With Blu-ray there's often (not always) been a focus on remastering films to bring out more detail than there has ever been in previous releases - e.g. How The West Was Won, Ben Hur, even films like Ghostbusters or Gladiator. In fact you could be more cynical about films because the film doesn't change at all yet studios are trying to make more money out of it.

Even worse is when a studio releases a bare-bones version of a film on DVD/Blu-ray then follows it up 6 months later with a special edition packed with bonus features.

At least with an HD remake of a game the studio is trying to polish it up in new ways.

To be honest I'm not sure what your point is about too many HD remakes - is it that you feel they are changing the game from its original version and they shouldn't be doing that, or is it simply that they are re-releasing too many old games and trying to make money out of people?
Post edited December 21, 2014 by djmiketjg
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darthspudius: Don't forget the excellent Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter and Sly Raccoon collections. They were some of the best re-releases so far.
That's really debatable. I'll give you the Sly Collection, that collection is mostly excellent. Sanzaru was able to treat the three games wonderfully, and I think they also did a fine job on Sly 4.

However, the other two collections have plenty of issues. In some cases it's enough for me to prefer the PS2 versions of them. Yeah, I know that the games in those series' utilized every trick in the book to run as well as they did on the PS2, and that as a result makes it really hard to port them to other systems (or to emulate them, for that matter). But the issues are still great.

The Jak trilogy suffers from cropped widescreen, barely upgraded visuals (I'm pretty sure they're not even at 720p), and a few new glitches. The cropped widescreen is a really bad thing in a platform-heavy game series like Jak, as now jumps are even harder to judge with less on screen at one time. Going by some gameplay footage, there are definitely times where this will become a killer. Sure, unlimited lives does lessen the blow, but it is still unacceptable for a game like this.

The Ratchet and Clank trilogy has a completely opposite set of issues. The graphics were treated wonderfully and the games are in proper widescreen. They even run in 1080p! However, I don't think I've ever seen a set of games as noticeably buggy as these. The music doesn't loop properly. Helmets in the latter two games are the wrong size. Script cues are often incorrectly triggered. At least one character model is mangled to crap. And there's a TON of other things wrong with them. There's a compendium of bugs in them in a forum topic on Insomniac's website. With how they all affect the presentation, I'd rather wait for the day that PCSX2 becomes competent enough to run the trilogy without issues. That, or wait for the day that PS3 emulation gets to a point where the trilogy can be played via it, AND someone bothers to fix all of these issues. Seriously, how does someone get music looping wrong...

/rant
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darthspudius: Don't forget the excellent Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter and Sly Raccoon collections. They were some of the best re-releases so far.
In fact, as I said, PS2 remasters are okay, since finding those titles is really hard. I'm pissed of when they remade title released like yesterday.